The Build of Elway 5 no.3

[simon_jones]

Phill does E numbers have a stump? as from the picture your uppers start at the goose neck.

[Tim Noyce]

Didn't realise Globus Packaging were making sails now. I've been to the place next door to them a few times but didn't really rate their work 

[phil_kirk]

E numbers does not have a long stump. The stump stops just above the connection with the fwd beams

The photos show the boat without lowers rigged.  currently we have caps, main shrouds and D2's rigged. 

Here are two more from other aspects.  network was so slow earlier I gave up trying to attach more than one. 

E-Numbers should be similar to Antidote except where she isn't.

Differences that I am aware of:

Our mast stump is a bit longer below the deck but was made with a tapered laminate so it's thinner as you go down.
The fairings on our fwd and aft beams are not hollow. Instead there are shaped from 80kg foam and covered with 1 layer of weave.
the aft beams are a touch higher.  Making it look pretty from front and back has been tricky.
The beam to rack connections have been done after the racks were bonded on.
The shute is a glass carbon moulding.
There is a bit more reinforcement around the centreboard case.

Most of these differences are due to personnal prefferences and experiences or lack of feel to how strong the boat needs to be.

We will see.

[dave_ching]

Looks amazing

[paul_croote]

More pics, in the spray booth. Phil and Sarah have done an excellent job and the effort and attention to detail has really paid off!

[dave_ching]

If you think its excellent it is even better than I thought.
How much more to do before the big day?

[doug1720]

She looks great.

Doug

[phil_kirk]

Mnay thanks to paul for spraying E-numbers on Friday night. he's done an excellent job and raced round the boat with his spray gun like an oylimpic athlete to avoid dry lines in the paint.  Some elements of the top including beams, shute and cleat supports etc were sprayed at the same time so we had to practice the point when we turned the boat over to avoid an embarasing delay. 

The finish makes all the time spent fairing and filling wrth while.  the lesson we learnt from the exercise was that it is best to apply a bit more filler than you think initially to avoid our several later aplications.  It would have saved a bit of time.

We picked her up yesterday afternoon giving the paint three days to dry properly.

I want to weigh her tonight to find out where we are.  I haven't done a weigh since we put the deck on.

The remaining jobs include
fairing and painting foils
applying progrip
making the sock
fitting fittings and lines.

i also thick that I will add kickbars.  Partly to avoid flailing about on the ocasional tack or gybe and partly to cover some control lines

Dan,

I think we have a boat for the stand if you will have her.

[ross_burkin]

Phil,

Are you progripping the deck? When Stu and I took the progrip of Strawberry there was water underneeth. The boat had been inside for a good few months.

[TSC]

Phil,

If I were you I'd only apply pro-grip on the racks. Use the sugared epoxy trick for adding non-slip on the deck.

Pro-grip can hold water underneath it as Ross mentioned if you dont get a complete adhesive bond. Also it tends to shrink over time leaving you with horrible adhesive witness marks all around it.

I guess we can have a chat about it on Friday night, although Sarah and Alex might get a bit fed up of Cherub and 700 talk by the end of the night !!!!!!

Paul

[phil_kirk]

We have bought the progrip.

We have not had a problem with water trapped under the progrip on Slippery.

Sarah insisted on progrip for the extra cushioning it gives when kneeling which does cause her pain at present.

We weighed the boat last night in her painted condition as you saw in the photos.  She weighs (the boat that is) 34.6kg.  Sarah weighs a little more.

[roland_trim]

Impresively light. Paul should be sent on a road tour to pass on his magic touch with the spray gun to non-weight obsessed  types who find themselves faced with a Cherub - it is very easy to add several kg's in paint  .

Am looking forward to seeing a used (but obviously new) boat at Ali Pali.


To aid the Pro-Grip debate.
-Any water quasi permanantly trapped under the pro-grip will be included in your all up weight as it is there when the boat is effectively "dry". It leaves the shore with you, stays with you round the course and is still there with you when you return to the shore - see the very boring debate about Saftey Kit. As it looks like your Ellway has room for a few kg's of grip/water trapped under it there is not much to worry about.
-If it helps we had significant joy with Plexus for the pro-grip. It look a serious effort to remove some when looking for the bung holes we had accidentally covered over and sets in minutes.

[daryl_wilkinson]

We have bought the progrip.

We have not had a problem with water trapped under the progrip on Slippery.

Sarah insisted on progrip for the extra cushioning it gives when kneeling which does cause her pain at present.

We weighed the boat last night in her painted condition as you saw in the photos.  She weighs (the boat that is) 34.6kg.  Sarah weighs a little more.

shall we open up the weight reduction argument again? 

[Phil Alderson]

Impresively light. Paul should be sent on a road tour to pass on his magic touch with the spray gun to non-weight obsessed  types who find themselves faced with a Cherub - it is very easy to add several kg's in paint  .

Am looking forward to seeing a used (but obviously new) boat at Ali Pali.


To aid the Pro-Grip debate.
-Any water quasi permanantly trapped under the pro-grip will be included in your all up weight as it is there when the boat is effectively "dry". It leaves the shore with you, stays with you round the course and is still there with you when you return to the shore - see the very boring debate about Saftey Kit. As it looks like your Ellway has room for a few kg's of grip/water trapped under it there is not much to worry about.
-If it helps we had significant joy with Plexus for the pro-grip. It look a serious effort to remove some when looking for the bung holes we had accidentally covered over and sets in minutes.

Phil, the boat is looking excellent and at a good weight, I know you will enjoy the unique feeling of sailing something you have built yourself.

The Pro-Grip does absorb a bit of water while sailing so there will be a slight weight penalty in sailing weight against the measured weight which should be done in a dry condition. However it is well worth it as crew rebellion is very bad for speed

I think that the water gets trapped where there are air bubbles when the Pro-Grip is applied, having a needle or sharp knife to pop the bubbles when sticking down can help.

[simon_jones]

WOW she looks great guys you must be very proud of all your hard work. I also agree that we have a boat for the dinghy show.