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Offline Stuberry

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Re: Travellers Series Scoring
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2010, 08:19:19 AM »
Really sorry about the confusion caused. The intention is that position points will be awarded to all positions, up to a million if that many people turned up! I thought I had put an "etc" after the 1st 2nd and 3rd, but I can't now open the file on the iPhone to check.

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Re: Travellers Series Scoring
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2010, 09:11:58 AM »
So what happens if a million and one people turn up?

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Re: Travellers Series Scoring
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2010, 09:49:01 AM »
We're going to need a considerably longer start line, or maybe split the fleet in to 2 starts.

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Re: Travellers Series Scoring
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2010, 10:52:00 AM »

I hope there will be 5 travellers as I'm looking to organise an inland event in September which will count.

How about at QMSC?  We would like that - but then we are biased.

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Re: Travellers Series Scoring
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2010, 12:30:50 PM »
If we had a million boats at an event I would expect a number of SNOD dinghy manufacturers to be out of business and some smaller  boat builders will be very rich. If that happens I don't want to be class secretary. It sounds like a lot more work than I have time for.

You would need a very big rigging area too.

I would expect Wiz would have a mobile shop 'for all those essential repairs'.

If the start line equalled the total length of all the boats it would be 4000km long.  The race officer would need very good eyesight to see to the other end of the line in new york.  the race limit might need to be more than 75 minutes as well.

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Re: Travellers Series Scoring
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2010, 02:31:24 PM »
It would probably take a million and a half years to build the boats so I don't think we need to worry just yet!

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Re: Travellers Series Scoring
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2010, 02:33:21 PM »
Even on a very well set line, there would be a lot of bias on a line that long! Anyway, it's nothing to worry about, I was just being silly.

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Re: Travellers Series Scoring
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2010, 07:09:43 PM »
A million and one boats would not cause any problems with Stu's travellers trophy system: It's when infinity and one show up that the problems start!

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Re: Travellers Series Scoring
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2010, 07:16:33 PM »
It would probably take a million and a half years to build the boats so I don't think we need to worry just yet!

I'm almost there with that one right now!

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Re: Travellers Series Scoring
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2010, 10:58:38 PM »
Good to hear it Daryl.

We look forward to seeing you at the Traveller events.

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Re: Travellers Series Scoring
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2010, 11:46:24 AM »
So what happens when two boats are tied on points at an event?

3 Choices:
-Award equal series points (life's too short).
-Use "highest position finished" (i.e  2 boats tie on points, boat 1's best finish was 3rd in one race,  Boat 2 other's best place was a 5th. First boat wins. If still tied then number of highest places, if still tied then call it a draw and give both boats the best tied points).
-Use result from last race of series (I do not like this one!).

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Re: Travellers Series Scoring
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2010, 12:44:02 PM »
At an event the positions will be determined by the event sailing instructions and ties will be split in accordance with the RRS.

The traveler series SI.'s also include a line to say that ties will be split in accrdance with RRS A 8 or whatever.

This means that the tie will first be split on the number of 1sts, 2nds, 3rds etc, then if there is still a tie the position in the last race and I can't remember the 3rd option.

The S.I.s reffer to the RRS to keep them consise. I wouldn't expect everyone to know the full RRS word for word, i don't , but it should be possible for anyone to find the part referenced.

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Re: Travellers Series Scoring
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2010, 09:45:50 AM »
So, as Tim says with 3/4 races done, and 3 different winners, it is as they say wide open.

So has anyone got a correct leaderboard ?



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Re: Travellers Series Scoring
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2010, 11:08:45 AM »
Latest results attached. If there's any glaring inaccuracies, please let me know.

It's looking like attendance is the name of the game, with a a missed event costing 14points!
« Last Edit: July 19, 2010, 11:40:59 AM by stu_tinner »

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Re: Travellers Series Scoring
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2010, 11:30:05 AM »
umm, stu, its not attached mate
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