Builders

[Team Slatter]

After a semi successful nationals and some serious persuasive talking To my dad we will hopefully be looking to buy /make  A new boat. Who can make these boats ? What is the best rig setup? And best blocks/ropes.

[HighwaytoHelm]

Very off topic but what is the Plan for Spanish? I'm currently looking for a boat... 

[roland_trim]

Best bet BUY COOL BEANS

[simon_jones]

I second that. A new boat will cost at least 12k whereas with cool beans all the work is done and you could concentrate on sailing and not spend a most of a year building. The hull is proven to be fast and all the niggles that come with any new boat have been sorted.

[HighwaytoHelm]

I need to start doing the lottery 

[Team Slatter]

Ok, I will talk to my dad about cool beans. The plan for spanish is to sell her.

[Neil C.]

If your Dad chokes on his coffee when you tell him the price, you might want to consider Natural Born Skiffeurs 2692 instead, currently on at 4900 Euro (About £4K Sterling?). Reputed to be a well-sorted '05 Rules racked Slug design, a lot like Atum Bom. I've never seen it, but I think Will Lee has if you want more info. Although it's now 7 years old, I get the impression it hasn't been sailed for the last 3 or 4. Only downside is you would have to go to Paris to collect, but depending where you live that might not be too much of an issue.

http://www.wanaboat.fr/deriveurs-skiffs/8373

[Clive Everest]

Hi Alex,
If you wanted to build an Everest 1 we could supply you with a kit. Roger and Dan could make a hull shell and the various tubes. Fiberfusion can make and cut all the flat panels. I would give advice and guidance.
It would still cost you at least as much as Cool Beans to get afloat.
It is very unlikely that your first attempt at building a boat will end up a work of art. If it does it is likely to take you a huge amount of time and you are likely to miss most of next season.
It is however very satisfying and you will learn a huge amount.
Being able to design build and develop your own boats adds a huge amount to what you get get out of the sport.
We could also offer foil kits for any boat if you want to try some serious fun.

Clive

[Will_Lee]

I last saw NBS at the 2007 nationals or perhaps the Carnac straight after that. Looked fundamentally very good. The boat is v well equipped and if down to weight could be as fast as any of the Atum/Subtle period boats.

She has a simpler construction than Atum, with single fat wingbeams going out to relatively low wings. The floor is thicker than Atum and the deck flatter. IIRC the bottom was not too well faired.

1) Thicker floor than Atum: Atum had a thin floor to assist with recovery from a capsize, but it means carrying more spray around. Riot Van had a thick floor and a bit of technique is required to recover from a capsize. All boats now have thicker floors I think. Atum's was 80mm at the back and 280mm at the case IIRC. Antidotes was 340mm at the case and 170mm at the back, which is probably about what NBS has. This makes tacks quicker ergonomically.
2) The fat wingbeams might be a bit bendier than the triangulated system on Atum and Antidote, but lots of boats do well with this system.
3) The shrouds are dyneema and thin. They probably could do with replacing with either fatter dyneema or wire.
4) The mast I think is a c tech. Really good and not overly used.
5) The bottom is bumpy and just needed to be faired. might have been done since.

I can't recall anything about the foils or sails, but it had excellent progrip art. This is a boat which needs a loving home. Ghislain now lives in the US, so I dont know how it can be collected but I guess it will be in the basement of his place in Paris.

I am in touch with him if you are interested. I think the boat comes with a good trailer as well.

[Tim Noyce]

to add to what Will has said. From memory, the board was similar to the I14 esque board on Ronin and the sails were Hydes of a similar cut to that of Subtle Knife and Badgers.