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Offline phil_kirk

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Re: Loco Perro
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2012, 12:43:30 PM »
you can bolt through carbon foam plate but you need 2 layers of carbon or glass in the area you are bolting through and a reasonable sized backing washer. The best solution is to combine this with an epoxy insert through the thickness of the foam but this takes longer.

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Re: Loco Perro
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2012, 01:07:05 PM »
Generally I would not put self tappers into anything that might see tension loading, and would avoid for anything other than light side loading, they will come out it is just a matter of time.

For bolting through foam you can also use an allan key to breakup the foam around the hole and then fill with bog. Carbon plate, or penny washers work well.

A track supported at the middle and ends does work as the normal high load is when the cark is at the end, the problem is if the car is in the middle and the sheet loads up e.g. in a capsize with crew landing in jib, then it will break. Your cats cradle idea may help with that, longer term I would put a foam-carbon strip from deck to track to give more support.


With my Gnav I have 3:1 on the boom, and 4:1  going down the mast.
You need to be careful where you attach the turning blocks on the boom for the gnav, if they are on the boom then there will be a high load pulling the gooseneck apart. This can be OK but the gooseneck-boom attachment must be very strong.



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Re: Loco Perro
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2012, 01:11:39 PM »
Thanks Phil
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Re: Loco Perro
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2012, 03:42:59 PM »
If you are coming to the Sheppey blast I should be able to help with any rigging problems, unless Tom made any major changes most was put in or modified by us.

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Re: Loco Perro
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2012, 07:34:48 PM »
Thanks Simon...Sheppey is a bit far for us just now and actually having had a bit of a closer look I think the rigging is more straightforward than it looked - the oddly cobbled together ropes and massive Barton block which confused me are for tensioning the rig prior to attachment of the jib...I think.

Rigging tomorrow morning...will post photos.

Track is 'mended' (bolted - worked fine) but awaits wraparound and over the top carbon bands, then re-bolting, which I'll contact John HH about and see if he can help. Should get the preparation work done this week.
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Re: Loco Perro
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2012, 06:55:57 PM »
Getting there...learnt what a boat breaker is (thenks Andy) and now I need a Loos gauge

Here's a go at putting up pictures





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Re: Loco Perro
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2012, 10:10:39 PM »
Torchy,

You are trying to link to a file on your desktop, they have to be somewhere on the web for that to work. if you click on Additional Options, and then upload the image files, they will display.


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Re: Loco Perro
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2012, 11:06:40 PM »
Not getting an 'upload file' option...do I need to be an association member?...some other admin fix?

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Re: Loco Perro
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2012, 11:44:18 PM »
and now I need a Loos gauge

Hmm this sounds seriously technical. There are two other options for this:
1) Twang shroud. if it is a musical note a bit like a guitar - you have enough tension to go sailing.
2) Ask the previous owners (Dan/Dean/Si are regular readers adn I'm sure they'll be along on this thread soon enough).

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Re: Loco Perro
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2012, 07:40:27 AM »
Not getting an 'upload file' option...do I need to be an association member?...some other admin fix?

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Hi it would be a non member thing that is stopping you uploading the pictures, I will get that sorted for you.
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Re: Loco Perro
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2012, 09:12:05 AM »
Thanks guys...yes Loos gauge may be a bit technical just yet so I'll go for the D 2 octaves below middle C and see how it goes :O)

...is that Modern or baroque pitch?
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Re: Loco Perro
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2012, 11:16:25 AM »
IIRC  Loco's shrouds do not go through the spreader ends. This makes the pitch of the shrouds twang v low, even with  good tension.

Fret it at the spreader and twang it above that. If it is definitely a note, then that's about right.
 

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Re: Loco Perro
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2012, 12:18:54 PM »
Thanks Will...it really is like playing a guitar
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Re: Loco Perro
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2012, 03:11:26 PM »
With her final C-tech rig the right rigging tension on Halo was a bass guitar A string on the shroud. I don't have perfect pitch, but I found I was close enough for adequate consistency...

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Re: Loco Perro
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2012, 03:17:41 PM »
:O)
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