Whitstable Open 2011

[simon_jones]

The wind on Saturday was averaging over 20mph and the water was short chop, this made for tricky conditions resulting in everyone having a
swim (some more than others). As Will said the breeze meant that Pasta was right up there with her smaller rig, Eleanor also sported her reduced main, possibly our descision of the weekend. Today was a little lighter, however we all seemed to be still a little broken from Saturday.
1st  Graham and Eddie
2nd Dave and Will/Tom
3rd Dean and myself

I will post a full set of results when I get them from the club, Thanks to all who came I hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did.

[phil_kirk]

Given that this is our aniversary year and this was the first event of the travllers series it would be fitting to put a report onto Y&Y tokeep the awareness of the class up.

Breeze in the west was quite pokey both days with gusts nearing 30 knots. Great sailing in a strong fleet but we would have enjoyed sailing the cherub at Whitstable just as much.

[Stuberry]

The results are here: http://wyc.org.uk/results/Cherub_Open_2011.htm

Does anyone know what Crootey and I did to get disqualified in race 5?

[pratn0]

I think it was because we did not go round the bottom mark correctly at the finish. 

but that race was Paul then Ronin.  the resto f the fleet did not finish.

[roland_trim]

An epic weekend.
Great to see everyone - glad to see our results did not make the listing  (Team Trim's worse open meeting result of all time).

Many thanks to Stu for getting Sgt. Murphy's kite up with Bruce. Was great to see the Union Jack hoisted and the mast staying in 1 piece.

[Stuberry]

I think it was because we did not go round the bottom mark correctly at the finish. 

You didn't have to, the course on the SI's was: Start, B, C, D, C, Finish

[simon_jones]

Stu it was an issue with the marks I believe, I will speak to the R/O to find out exactly what the issue was.

[paul_croote]

We were rounding the finish line mark not the leeward mark. I also rounded the leeward mark (which wasn't) before finishing upwind. Note to self for nationals, pay more attention to the sailing instuctions!

[Stuberry]

I was rounding the big black round w/ward mark and the identical leeward mark. Then finished downwind between the orange mark and the committee boat. Not sure where I went wrong.

[pratn0]

i think our bottom mark was the orange with the black top.  the Solid black was the finish/start line.

the first three rounds we went round the start/finish mark (but our string would ave gone round the orange with black top)  but when we limped to the finish without the kite that last lap we were to weather of the orange with black top so did go round the bottom mark for the last time.

s**t happens.   pity as both Paul and our selves sailed that whole race only to be dsq'd so no cherub's finished.   

[Stuberry]

That doesn't seem to match the sailing instructions which say:

10.1 Course 1 (A&B) will be marked with large inflatable buoys.
Course 2 (C&D) will be marked with large inflatable buoys.
The start/finish line will be marked by the committee boat and an orange buoy.

Also, the course diagram shows the start/finish buoy as inbetween the committee boat and the leeward mark.

[simon_jones]

The R/O has confirmed that both cherubs in race 5 went around the pin end bouy not the leeward mark hence the DSQ.

[Stuberry]

So was the leeward the orange one or the black one?

And the pin end the orange or the black?

We went around the black. So if that was the pin end of the line, why does it say in the SI's that the pin end of the line will be an orange mark?

Does anyone know the process for appealing against a disqualification?

[simon_jones]

The leeward mark was orange with a black top, the start/finish mark was black. As we started every race with this mark it may be difficult to say that you were not sure which mark was the Start/finish mark.
The Si's state that all protests must be lodged in writing within one hour of the finish of the last boat in the last race of each day.
That being said if the DSQ's were taken away and Paul was given 1st and you 2nd in race 5 the outcome of the series would remain unchanged.
Paul would be 4th with 18 points, you would be 5th with 20 points.

[Stuberry]

The leeward mark was orange with a black top, the start/finish mark was black. As we started every race with this mark it may be difficult to say that you were not sure which mark was the Start/finish mark.

I didn't start every race considering the black mark was the pin end of the buoy, I considered the orange mark was the pin end, as described in the sailing instructions.

The Si's state that all protests must be lodged in writing within one hour of the finish of the last boat in the last race of each day.

I presume a protest was made against Paul and I, but I was not present for the protest hearing. The SI's say that protests will be heard at 1900. I presume there was a hearing in my absence. I will write to the club and ask for a copy of the protest decision.

That being said if the DSQ's were taken away and Paul was given 1st and you 2nd in race 5 the outcome of the series would remain unchanged.
Paul would be 4th with 18 points, you would be 5th with 20 points.

I also rounded the leeward mark (which wasn't) before finishing upwind. Note to self for nationals, pay more attention to the sailing instuctions!

Therefore Paul's DSQ should remain. I however firmly believe that we sailed the course described in the sailing instructions and should therefore be scored 1st in race five, promoting our final position to 4th and one less point in the Traveller's Trophy.