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Cherub Chat => Calendar Events => Topic started by: roland_trim on February 16, 2011, 02:23:25 PM
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What - Regatta at Royal Victoria YC (Cowes)
When - July 16th - 17th
From their news letter:
We look forward to a great turnout of cruisers as well as dinghies and National Squibs. The UK Cherub fleet have been invited to bring their extreme boats, a far cry from the Cherubs in which Club members Merris Catton (1969) and Gordon Williams (1972/3) won the Nationals.
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From their news letter:
We look forward to a great turnout of cruisers as well as dinghies and National Squibs. The UK Cherub fleet have been invited to bring their extreme boats, a far cry from the Cherubs in which Club members Merris Catton (1969) and Gordon Williams (1972/3) won the Nationals.
You don't suppose that means that they are still in contact with those two do you? Merris Catton especially was on my "want to talk to" list. There's a possibility she may have been the first woman to win a UK National Championships in any class.
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Bring Queenie as a warm up event to find out?
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Sadly it will probably be years before I get all the work done Queenie needs (unless of course I get made redundant in the current recession, in which case I just won't be able to afford the materials)
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slightly quicker than waiting, why not try e mail.
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If it helps I think EJ will go for a swim at this one. Does anyone fancy a "flotilla crossing" on either Sat AM or the Friday?
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Nick and I have this in our diary and intend to be there.
The club may be able to organise a big discount on the cost of the ferry crossing. I will need to give them an idea of numbers. If people could 'express an interest' by 18th March, I can give the club an idea of numbers looking to use the ferry.
I would be keen to sail accross, but I think I would still like my trolley and covers and a bag of clothes over there.
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I would be keen to sail accross, but I think I would still like my trolley and covers and a bag of clothes over there.
Would settle for tent, tools and clothes (one large estate car between several boats?)
R
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I'd be up for that too.
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Will start working on a logistics package for those wanting to saling accross.
Anyone wanting to ferry over should post here so Stuberry can help you with a ferry deal.
For those who fancy arriving by sail:
As a loose plan would delivering the kit you want on the Island to Thornbury the week before and it being delivered to Weston the week after be a starter?
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I think we'll be up for this, either sail across or ferry. We should hopefully have joined a solent club by then so might be able to arrange launching.
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In the days when there was a Gurnard open, we used to sail across from Lepe Beach. The Gurnard rescue boat would come over and you bunged your bag of clothes and a sleeping bag in to it. The club were quite happy for us to spend the night on their floor. Not quite sure if a boat would come all the way round from Royal Vic though. (South-East corner of the Island if I remember rightly).
I have a hazy recollection of one of the best piss-ups of all time in the bars of Cowes, Bob Clements (class president) buying the entire fleet a curry on his company expenses account, and then Davro pushing me home to the club in a shopping trolley, past the Royal Yacht Squadron. The only downside was we got becalmed on the trip back to the mainland on the Sunday evening, and I had to be at work in Dundee on the Monday morning. I think we made it with an hour to spare.
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may not be able to sail for this one, but if people are wanting to sail over i could borrow my dads rib and take trolley's/kit if people would like? as its looking like i may well be down that way looking at houses! over that week/weekend.
plus gives those of you wanting to sail over some sort of safety cover...
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Tim are you coming back to the Solent?
Years ago we all sailed across from Lepe Beach in the moths.
I will have to check if they have started charging there.
We would like to go but it may be one to many hurdles at this stage.
That is not a no but more of a when we work out how with easier events we will think more about it
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Thats enough recollections of class presidents and expense accounts, wheres the moderator when you need him ?
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We won't be joining in - but we will be able to see you. We are racing lead mines in the IRC Nationals from Cowes Fri-Sunday.
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RVYC ( and the regatta ) is at Fishbourne - right next to the Wightlink car ferry from Portsmouth - launching from the old ferry slipway.
They can probably get some good deal for discounted tickets.
Nearest place to sail over from is Stokes Bay. ~ 3 miles?
Gordon Williams won't be attending - he is with the cherubs upstairs...
I recall that there was weighing of the winners at the nationals mentioned - oops underweight DSQ, try the next one - oops underweight DSQ, and so on until 6th place when Merris Catton/Gordon Williams are pronounced the champions!
Can you believe that for the first 1970's Cherub open at Gurnard I think there were 26 boats!!!
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I recall that there was weighing of the winners at the nationals mentioned - oops underweight DSQ,!
Before my time of course but I heard that it was sail measurement - the nylon cloths of those days were anything but stable and a kite that measured when it was brand new could be quite a way out a little while later. The first couple of Nationals I did they measured all the sails before the racing started and there was some kind of trick you could do to "unstretch" a kite which involved taking it to a laundrette, but I've forgotten the detail.
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How times have changed!
I haven't been to a Laundrette for ages.
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Ah good times Neil. ;)
For a few years we had an open at Royal Vic. (When John Lobb was a member there)
The sail from Lee-on-Solent is a bit further than Lepe to Gurnard but not much, (~4 miles) in fact as long as there's some wind you could 'comute'.
For Lee open or Stokes bay persuit the boats based at Royal Vic quite often sailed over in the morning then back after the racing.
Us mainland crew just liked the idea of a piss up on the Isle of Wight. We stayed in the clubhouse a couple of times, once at Johns house and I seem to recall sleeping in someones yacht one year. Anyway, kit and sleeping bag in bin liners and boats left on the club lawn worked fine. Just don't follow Flip Top's example and sleep on the pool table, or if you do clear the balls off first. Also no-one is to attempt 'filling' the glass display case with the model yacht in to see if it floats. If you must play that getting round the room without touching the floor game don't use the curtain rails and surely nobody would play drunken doctors and nurses on the stainless slab in the kitchen. . .
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So Pasta is on for this one then?
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Dave,
sounds like your advice is from experience.
Who do we know who would consider playing doctors and nurses?
I would be concerned if this got out of hand and somone started playing open heart surgery.
Unfortunately we can't make this one. it sounds like a hoot though.
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sounds like your advice is from experience.
Who do we know who would consider playing doctors and nurses?
I don't believe I did any of the Royal Vic events, so it wasn't me, but I doubt you any of you folks would know any of the parties who might have been involved as it must be going back fifteen or twenty years.
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Ah good times Neil. ;)
For a few years we had an open at Royal Vic. (When John Lobb was a member there)
The sail from Lee-on-Solent is a bit further than Lepe to Gurnard but not much, (~4 miles) in fact as long as there's some wind you could 'comute'.
For Lee open or Stokes bay persuit the boats based at Royal Vic quite often sailed over in the morning then back after the racing.
Us mainland crew just liked the idea of a piss up on the Isle of Wight. We stayed in the clubhouse a couple of times, once at Johns house and I seem to recall sleeping in someones yacht one year. Anyway, kit and sleeping bag in bin liners and boats left on the club lawn worked fine. Just don't follow Flip Top's example and sleep on the pool table, or if you do clear the balls off first. Also no-one is to attempt 'filling' the glass display case with the model yacht in to see if it floats. If you must play that getting round the room without touching the floor game don't use the curtain rails and surely nobody would play drunken doctors and nurses on the stainless slab in the kitchen. . .
Ah yes, I remember it well (sort of). Very messy. . .
It was my boat you slept in, the year after I left the class and I turned-up in it to take pics and hand-out beer to the becalmed Cherubbers. .
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Dean visited the club while on holiday this week, they have confirmed that they can sort a discount on the ferry but will need to know soon.
Stu have you confirmed any details with them?
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OK, lets start talking about this one. I know its not part of the travellers circuit, but RVYC is a prestigous place to go and in our 60th, and their 50th year its a good opportunity for some much needed publicity. Entry is only a tenner and you get 6 races so it would be good to get at least 5 there. I know Eleanor and Usagi cant, and Roit Van and Exultant can - are the rest in ?
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If we can get the logistics for this one sorted, then we will be on.
It's probably a good idea for all interested parties to sit down over a beer this weekend.
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Agreed, we will have much to talk about !
Can we find out if the clubs offer of ferry discount is still available? it looks to me like a car, 4 adults and a trailer up to 2m high is approx £100 ...
So we can put this into the equation ....
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I'll email the club.
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Due to an adverse forecast this has now been re-scheduled for the 3rd/4th of September.
I will speak to Dean however this does clash with our annual swim/sail round Sheppey.
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Wow, what an incredible weeeknd! Back to work with a bump today.
The club was as welcoming as any club could ever be. A fantastic send on Saturday made the 5am start totally worth it.
I can't wait to go back.
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Born Slippy rocked our socks off on Saturday. With a steady force 5 to bounce us between wave crests it was one of those outings that makes you grin for days after. No photos from on the water, but there are some lawn ornament shots to follow.
RV is definitely a place to return to. We are in two minds about round the island or on the island.
The only negative was us forgetting how to hoist a non-socked kite. The first run was epic, but we rushed the second hoist and it jammed. A few minutes later the entire kite flopped into the water at 15 knots we had a very funny broach and swim.
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So this was our "rig" on the ferry. It raised a few questions:
If the ferry sank and assuming we could get the car and trailer off the ferry and in to the open water...
1) Is there enough buoyancy in Born Slippy and Ronin to float the trailer?
2) Is there enought buoyancy in Riot Van to float the car?
If so, with Ronin and Riot Vans rigs available, go go Honda Sketch Express!
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Since the minimum volume of a cherub should be 260 litres each boat will provide about 260kg of bouyancy when fully immersed. Since the trailer is carrying the masts and quivers etc. Assume the weight of two boats is about 140kg. Add the weight of two trolleys about 40kg. I would say that the two boats and trailer would float.
using the same figures for the boat on the car and I would say that as long as the car weighed less than 180 kg there is a chance.
this is all assumin that you left the bungs in the boats! ;D
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Don't forget the buoyancy aids in the car!
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I've seen your buoyancy aid Maff. . .
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Doesn't this assume there is no buoyancy at all in the car? It is immersed too, so has some buoyancy (just not as much as it has weight). Then there is the 'hard' buoyancy like tyres and pipes, and the 'soft' buoyancy of the air in the cabin and within the chassis.
Anyway - it still sounds like a sinker!
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We dropped in on Bill McCutcheon on monday afternoon before we left the island. Really nice guy. After his initial understandable bemusement at being doorstepped by a couple of quite damp cherub sailors, he told us how he had built and sailed more moths and 14s than he could remember, but the cherub was still his favourite.
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I'm pretty sure it would sink too. However, if you had enough time perhaps you could make a long snorkel out of all the spars sealed together into one long pipe with gaffa tape. Attach this to the engine's air inlet and perhaps you could drive along the seabed until you got to the beach. The question remains whether there would be enough air in the car though. The average person at rest consumes about 250ml of oxygen per minute. Air is 21% oxygen and there are 4 or 5 people in the car. Touch and go I think.
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How is this careful equation impacte
d by the general amount of hot air on board?
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Good point Hayley. On second thoughts it would probably float, thanks to the large amount of methane gas emanating from all the bulls**t. :)
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I do believe that the presenters of top gear have shown it takes quite a bit of expanding foam to stop water getting into a car. Will, i had forgoten about the tyres and any components with a lower density than water. it would be interesting to weigh a car in water to find out weather a cherub could really save it but very messy.