Thanx. Yep I'm looking for stainless 'D' rings with no deck / mast plate. I will ring the Welsh Harp. Although in my experience they can be a bit vague so I'll probably end up the mast variety if I order by post, which i don't want. Bit to far for a trip just for D rings. I'm getting my fittings through my sailing club chandler, which is a very small concern. But I like to keep business local. And he couldn't find any through his catalogues.