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Offline Tim Noyce

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Re: It's good to have Cellulite
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2013, 09:10:19 AM »
Keep on going Neil. I am assured that it will all be worth it in the end!

The only thing keeping me sane is knowing that in just over a weeks time, I have got 2 weeks booked off work for the primary activity of sailing the bloody thing!  ;D

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Re: It's good to have Cellulite
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2013, 05:20:39 PM »
Slow progress continues.
I'm really just posting this so that the fear of public embarrassment if I don't finish it off will be enough to give me the final push to complete the job. Really not a huge amount to do. Feel free to throw some abuse and ridicule this way to give me a kick up the rear. 

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Re: It's good to have Cellulite
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2013, 06:12:57 PM »
Can confirm it really is worth it.

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Re: It's good to have Cellulite
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2013, 09:31:05 PM »
Cant see any difference Neil, what the hell have you been doing ?  ;)

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Re: It's good to have Cellulite
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2013, 11:22:06 PM »
Cant see any difference Neil, what the hell have you been doing ?  ;)

Excellent. That's more like it! :)

Actually (and I realise this is probably going to kill off any resale value the flamin'  thing might still have had), when I got back from my summer holidays I decided I didn't like the side-decks, and that Cheese-style racks were the way to go. So the jigsaw came out one afternoon and the side of the boat came off. After messing about with tube angles and stuff for a while I decided that didn't look right either, so I've spent the last 2 or 3 weeks rebuilding the decks and laminating them back on!!! If you look closely in the photo in my last post you can see the joins. Stupid or what. 

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Re: It's good to have Cellulite
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2013, 10:11:03 AM »
Good to see you are still going for it. I have the same problem with an idea and a jigsaw as I get carried away as well. Its usually great fun at the beginning but putting it all back together is a lot of time and energy. Having said that I have usually been pleased with the final results. Sweet Dreamzzz is now a much better boat, but is still showing the scars from my last idea  and jigsaw frenzy, soon to be covered but I have the advantage of it still being sailable.
Keep it going Neil, as the boat will be soooo much better in the end.  :)
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Re: It's good to have Cellulite
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2013, 12:12:47 PM »
I have given Gill my jigsaw and she's locked it away where I can't find it....just in case
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Re: It's good to have Cellulite
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2013, 12:43:30 PM »
Angle grinders are worse for this. 

Think twice, cut once!
and just because someone else did something it doesn't mean it's right.

If you had the jigs it would have been easier to build a new hull but that's not a restoration project and in my mind it's sort of cheating.

I'm sure it will look right when you've finished it.

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Re: It's good to have Cellulite
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2013, 11:53:29 PM »
Much shaping and sanding today. Looking a lot tidier. Top layers of glass / carbon need to go on the foam soonish (underside already glassed with 2 layers of 200g). Is it feasible to get a reasonable finish with carbon cloth on a horizontal deck panel with peel-ply, but without vacc-ing? 

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Re: It's good to have Cellulite
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2013, 11:58:50 PM »
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Re: It's good to have Cellulite
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2013, 12:31:05 PM »
Is it feasible to get a reasonable finish with carbon cloth on a horizontal deck panel with peel-ply, but without vacc-ing?
Sure, if you consolidate the layup in another way. It doesn't matter what presses it down so long as something does. Halo's tank sides were consolidated with the aid of many years issues of Yachts and Yachting and Boards magazines... The thing about vacuum bagging is that its convenient and you get a lot of pressure without much weight. If you think about the amount of physical weight needed to get the same effective pressure over a large area its fairly intimidating.

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Re: It's good to have Cellulite
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2013, 09:15:22 PM »
The atmospheric pressure at sea level is about 14.5 lb per square inch or 1kg per cm2. You won't get a full atmosphere with most setups, but even half that is significant.
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Re: It's good to have Cellulite
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2014, 09:44:07 PM »
The atmospheric pressure at sea level is about 14.5 lb per square inch or 1kg per cm2. You won't get a full atmosphere with most setups, but even half that is significant.

Finally got some slightly warmer weather and a free Saturday evening. I have just laminated up the main panel for the port side-deck. Covered it with peel-ply, sheet of plastic, 9mm plywood boards and weighed down with several buckets of water. I was standing back looking at it and had the hypothetical idea that I could remove the buckets and instead cover the panel with the kids paddling pool and fill it up. Water seems pretty dense, and this would give a steady even pressure across the whole surface. But then I re-read Phil's post above. To achieve a pressure of 1kg per square centimetre, I would need a column of water 1000cm tall over each square centimetre of surface, I.e. the water would have to be 10 metres deep!!! My house is about 9 metres tall to the ridge.  That's a lot of pressure!
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Re: It's good to have Cellulite
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2014, 05:04:15 PM »
laminate on floor...a big flat pad, settee on top, telly in corner, and a whole series of 'game of thones' to watch. that should do it. Oh hang on... fridge full of beer (sat beside you on the settee). porta-poty (on other side). sorted! Hey all you need is a little application!  :D
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Re: It's good to have Cellulite
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2014, 10:24:52 PM »
Been in need of some inspiration lately.

Remember the old sci-fi film "2001 Space Odyssey" ?? Well a monolith has appeared mysteriously in my garage. Although for some reason mine is pink instead of black.