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Cherub Chat => Calendar Events => Topic started by: dave_ching on September 12, 2010, 05:50:07 PM
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Is this going to happen?
My possible crew has a family so he can not just book off every weekend for the rest of the year.
When is the Chorus regatta could we do that again?
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We have a plan and are working on it.
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I spoke to Simon on Friday and he has identified 3 possible options.
Queen Mary have recently been asked if we can hold an event there and we are awaiting a response.
Draycote have a multiclass event planned in october and we are enquiring if we can be included ( but checking that the event would be suitable for us to join in with).
Corus regatta is the back up but 2nd- 3rd October i.e. 3 weeks away.
Obviously as dave has pointed out it is only fair to give competitors a bit of notice and we are running close to the wire to give that notice for corus at least. Like Dave we have quite a few weekends committed already and can not just make any weekend. i hope we are lucky and can make the chosen date.
These sort of key events really need to be organised a year in advance and we hope to have next year's travellers venues agreed at least before the sailing season starts. many clubs have fixed their programmes by christmas so it pays to get in early if possible.
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Good news. Subject to confirmation by our fixtures sec. Queen Mary have agreed to host our Inlands on the 9/10 October. Entry £25 per boat. More details to follow once Stu and Simon have confirmed they are happy with the arrangements.
There will be plenty of floor space available at ours in Lower Sunbury (5 mins from club), 2 single beds and a camp bed available for those who are quickest. For those who want a little more comfort than our floor there is a new Travelodge and a very new Permier Inn in Sunbury Cross. I suggest the social will be a few drinks in a couple of the Sunbury riverside pubs which are quite decent, and then as tradition would have it to the local curry house a few doors from the pub which those who have been to it I think will agree with me is pretty good on the food front.
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Thanks go to Andy for organising this one.
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Well Stu and I are in.
But Sunday we may not make as it is my 25th Pirate and ***** Birthday party in Sandhurst on the Sat Night.
You are all welcome to join us if you want. but floor space has already been mainly booked up.
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Before we start moving things about from that weekend - can we confirm this is definite?
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I've just spoken To Andy and he's confirmed that this weekend is definate.
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Yes, confirmed with QMSC. We will have our own course on Saturday. Start time 12:30 with 3 races back to back. Race Officer confirmed for that day - Chris Anstead a mothie so used to fast windward leeward boats.
Sunday we will race with the club (2 races) . Haven't worked out the finer points but I expect we will have our own start and sail the same course as the fast asyms - windward leeward. I have asked if they will run us a short third race immediately afterwards (to be confirmed).
Nearer the time I will publish the 'Insider guide to launching and recovering your Cherub at QMSC' It is quite safe and simple if you do what we do, a bit more tricky if you try and carry your cherub to the water on your shoulder!
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Dean and I will be there.
Not sure about accommodation yet we might take you up on the floor space idea Andy.
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Antidote can't make it unfortunately.
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Shiny cant make it but we are now thinking of going to Chorus if anyone else would like to go.
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Corus is 2nd - 3rd and a complete hoot.
Sadly team EJ already booked elsewhere for both.
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Do we have any standard class rules that the inlands NOR needs to refer to? I'm putting together the NOR with the QMSC gen sec
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Andy, I've PM'ed you Phils phone number. He is the best guide for these? R
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I'm available for Inlands but Sarah will be at her final byte event of the season.
I can crew if anyone will have me or may bring BS if I can find a crew.
Sarah and I will probably be going to Corus. Haven't decided which boat to take yet. Alternatively there is sailing at thornbury that weekend.
normal accomodation rules apply.
We will probably camp at Corus if the weather is good and take a trip to porthcawl in the evening. i wonder if the Elvis convention will be on again?
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I'll bring the hamburgers
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Team Wales are keen on Corus. I'll chat to Nick...
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Corus/Elvis convention
Apparently its on when the Canoes are down there in a weeks time :-(( Time to learn the chords for "From Galway to Graceland"?
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I'm up for some Cherubing. I can get the train. A little mission will be fun.
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Bother.....Stuck in the middle of Afghanistan until end of November. No Argument Clinic I'm afraid. :(
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Bother.....Stuck in the middle of Afghanistan until end of November. No Argument Clinic I'm afraid. :(
Best excuse of the season. Look forward to meeting up when you are back.
How much interest is there in a couple of really cold blasts this year?
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I was just thinking:
a) how Argument Clinic was getting on
b) if there were any autumn events that we could crash.
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[How much interest is there in a couple of really cold blasts this year?
Absolutely none at all from Usagi. The crew functions in temperate or hot water only. ;D
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I'm up for blastage. Yorkshire Dales SC is looking to be an ideal Cherub venue...
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For those interested in Sailing at corus next weekend at their regatta.
Start times are 12:00 on Saturday and 10:30 on Sunday.
It appears that we will miss the Elvis convention at Porthcawl but I'm sure we will do the best we can and find somewhere to dance the night away in our blue suede shoes!
Humm!
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Looks like i will be there. bring the missus. please don't scare her to much
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Saddly we will not be there as the track has not been fixed yet and my crew is on family duties.
Thats not Lara
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I was just thinking:
a) how Argument Clinic was getting on
b) if there were any autumn events that we could crash.
Argument got a fair battering before I had to depart - more than Banshee Ambulance!! Got Ambulances junior crew out in the Fireball, helming from the wire!!
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Team Ronin are regretably pulling out of the Corus Regatta. This is because we predict the M4 to be heavily congested with traffic for the Ryder Cup which is taking place in the near vicinity this weekend, and we can not deal with sitting in queing traffic for hours on end!
We will however be at Queen Mary for some cheeky launching practice this weekend.
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We may still go and will decide between 1 day or two days and Born Slippy and the ent. All options open at present.
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NOR and SI's on the website.
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We will however be at Queen Mary for some cheeky launching practice this weekend.
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We will probably join you on Sunday, do the 2nd race and then some blasting when the water clears.
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Is the second race after lunch? what time does it usually start?
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No straight after the first, start around 11.30ish
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I am available to crew or helm at the inlands. I could also bring Born Slippy if anyone wishes to crew in her.
if anyone has a gap in their boat or wants a sail in born Slippy please P.M. in the next couple of days.
My other option for next weekend is possibly sailing a Byte C2 at Weston.
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So who is coming to the Inlands this weekend? There were 60ish Fevas there this weekend be a shame if we can't get more than 10% of their numbers. So far I think it is only.......
Us
Ronin
Eleanor
Born Slippy (subject to getting a crew)
Surely we can muster another 4 or 5 for the final event of the season? Floor space available at ours (5 mins from the club) and a couple of good pubs and a curry nearby. QMSC is brim full of water, no rocks or shallows to content with - and I can talk you through how to make launching and recovery easy.
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Me and Davro will be there in Pasta
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Monkey Magic is coming too.
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me and digby cant make it due to a gold D of E expedition :(
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I am available to helm or crew also. Sadly Loco and her crew are stuck north.
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Riot Van will be there.
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looks like Tom and Phil could join forces in Born Slippy?
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>>>>> What happened <<<<<<
Am officially a keyboard warrior this week - any news from the weekend.
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Results are here (http://www.queenmary.org.uk/SailResults/Open%20Racing%202010/20101010_Cherub%20Inland%20Championship.htm).
Report to follow.
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very brief summary........
hot (for the time of year), sunny (on the Sunday) and increasingly windy culminating in a quite full on final couple of races. Lake to ourselves on Saturday, added fun of lots of club boats Sunday. Decent sized windward/leeward courses, no hanging around between races. No sand, no mud, no rocks. Beer and curry on Saturday night.
Embellishments on the report to come.
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OK, let me have a brain splurge on this one to kick things off:
Race 1:
We had an excellent start, speed and height off the line then binned it in to windward. Everyone else carried on left and we came back right.
Race 2:
Another excellent start, hit the left side of the course, but we were first to sail in to the hole and everyone else tacked off leaving us struggling.
Race 3:
Dodgy start, so tacked back on to port and hit the right side which seemed to pay and we rounded in third. Usagi went for a swim on the run and we took the lead. We mis-judged the lay line coming in to the windward mark on the 3rd lap and had to put two tacks in, letting Eleanor through. But we had a better bear away and snuck inside them, had a disagreement and they capsized. Usagi was quite close at the last windward mark and very close at the finish.
Race 4:
We had an unremarkable start. Usagi was banging the left side of the course, which I think paid so we followed. This made the race a bit processional.
Race 5:
We didn't give anyone room at the committee boat but then got pushed over by Eleanor, I'm blaming karma. We went around the pin but couldn't get past Pasta to do better than 5th.
Race 6:
Breeze was up. We were shattered. Only 3 boats left in the race I think. On the last bare away we binned it in and broke the board righting the boat.
On reflection I didn't take much notice what anyone else was doing and I don't remember much.
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Do forgot you and I won our first ever Cherub race in race 3.
Then got too pissed on Sat to do any better.....
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On reflection I didn't take much notice what anyone else was doing and I don't remember much.
You still talking about the racing or your usual Saturday night? ;D
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Sounds epic!
Pictures?
Who won?
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Andy and Jill won, Graham and Eddy were second.
Team Born Slippy had a fun weekend interspersed with some frustrating moments. The Slug is rapid on flat water both upwind and down. Due mainly to smaller sails we were near the back with ocasional glimpses of glory when the 05 rules boats capsized. The kite halyard jammed on race 1 which we finished under two sails. After freeing the tapered line from the mast pulley it happened again. We opted to go ashore and fix it so we could complete the third race. We missed the start but had a good sail trying to catch the monkey.
After excellent Curry and some beers on Saturday night and a watch of the Grand prix on Sunday morning we enjoyed a second day of racing in increasing breeze dodging the club racing. In race 1 we had a good battle with the Pasta Frenzy managing to stay in the breeze up and down wind and stayed ahead until the finish. I discovered that the rudder is sensitive to stalling at slow speed which made manoeuvring at the start somewhat tricky. My weakness of gybing in breeze had returned and rather frustratingly spoilt some good beats. We nailed the laylines for the windward mark on practically every attempt.
Tom was an excellent and very understanding crew.
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Looking inthe manual for Born Slippy's 97 rig there is only the following entry under Gybing:
"Let the kicker off or she tips you in"
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We had a great weekend. Eleanor showed some real pace at times, sadley let down by the two numpteys
sailing her.
There was some close racing with all the 05 rules boats shown in the results with just two points seperating
2nd to 4th after six races. The increasing breeze also stopped our 6th race although this was due to crew failure not boat failure.
1) We need more practice
2) we need to get fit for next year
Thanks to Andy and Gill for sorting this one and putting us up for the night.
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Ahh! that could be the reason.
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Could someone who was nearer the front of the fleet who saw more of the action put the above posts together into an article and send to yachts and yachting web site. 200-300 words.
If we want to increase our exposure as a class and attract a sponsor for next year we need to start getting info out a bit wider than this forum.
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I have done a report for Y&Y which is up on their website now, with a photo - from QMSC but not taken actually at the Inlands. I have included some shameless plugging of the new rules boats.
I am bias but I thought it was an excellent event with good competition and race menagement, shame a few more didn't come and enjoy it. I'm just enquiring if QMSC would do the same next year either for a traveller event or the Inlands - they would like us to bring over 10 boats though.
Report reproduced here.
The weather gods certainly smiled benignly on the Cherub Inlands at Queen Mary SC with warm temperatures and an increasing breeze over the two days culminating in a couple of quite full on final races. On Saturday three races were held in a reasonably steady 8-12 knots of breeze.
In race 1 Andrew and Jill Peters in Usagi were first around the windward mark but succumbed to an early capsize letting Graham and Eddie Bridle in Riot Van lead for the majority of the race. Usagi though was slowly catching and overtook Riot Van on the last leg to win. In race 2 Usagi led from start to finish with Dean and Simon in Eleanor getting a good second, Riot Van finishing third. In race 3 a slightly increased breeze suited Stu Turner and Nick Pratt in Ronin and they took the win by a boat length from a fast finishing Usagi. Davro had finally emerged from a post Ministry of Sound sleep and posted an excellent 3rd in the Pasta Frenzy. The first 97 rules boat for the day was Phil Kirk and Tom Kiddle in Born Slippy.
On the Sunday the Cherubs had their own start on the club racing course giving QMSC members a close up view of the fantastic 05 rules cherubs complete with their masthead asymmetrics, twin trapezes and t-foils (there are a couple of great second hand boats available on the class website!) Overtaking the RS400’s who started 5 minutes ahead showed the turn of speed these 12 foot skiffs can produce given a decent breeze.
Normal service was resumed in the first two races with Usagi taking 2 firsts and the Inland Championships for the second year. Each race was hard fought with in particular Eleanor and Ronin also leading for significant periods of the racing. The increasing breeze was making for some challenging corner turning and the QMSC sailors were getting some spectacular cherub action to watch. By the final race the wind was upto a good force 4, firmly into Pasta territory. Riot Van and Ronin duelled for the lead but Dave and Maff in Pasta were never far behind. A race ending capsize by Ronin freed Riot Van for certain victory, however the thrill of riding the days biggest gust downwind meant Riot Van over stood the finish and had to drop the kite and reach across. This opened the door for The Pasta Frenzy who, showing a mean turn of speed themselves, blasted across the finish line to take the win. Adem and Chris in Monkey Magic showed some good boat handling to stay the course and claim third.
Many thanks to QMSC for arranging such superb conditions and for the excellent race management.
Results are under the sailing>results tab on the QMSC website
http://www.queenmary.org.uk/SailResults/Open%20Racing%202010/20101010_Cherub%20Inland%20Championship.htm (http://www.queenmary.org.uk/SailResults/Open%20Racing%202010/20101010_Cherub%20Inland%20Championship.htm)
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Me and Davro both independently think we spotted a camera in a safety boat during R6, do you know who this mystery photographer may be?
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I'd be keen to come next time, just unfortunately in the middle of moving and living out of a B&B in Devon during the week at the moment so just couldn't happen!
It certainly wasn't anything to do with the location or facilities that put me off coming. My first Cherub event was at QM back in 2005 so would like to return at some point ;D
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I am not a fan of the launching, but it is a great map location and we would have been there if we could have. I think somone else pointed out that the most heavily attended event this year (bar nationals) was the one that there was the longest notice for.
Post edit:- there were many reasons for the late notice, this is not a crit. Just a note for future events.
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Launching was amazing, we used the club jetties!
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I am not a fan of the launching
I think this weekend dispelled a few myths about QMSC launching for Cherubs. It is actually one of the easiest places to launch cherubs and moths if you follow our simple procedure of getting your boat down the bank and off the trolley, 1 wing lapping in the water before putting on the main. Simples
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Brilliant write up Andy thanks, its already been reported back to me via another source so people DO read them !
I can only endorse that theres nothing wrong with QM and launching, seemed pretty easy to me, certainly easier than thornbury which I thought was the hardest all year (but still one of the best venues) - hey, launching these boats is tricky, so's sailing them, all part of the love !