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Title: Upwind in a cherub?
Post by: AmusingOutrigger on April 24, 2017, 01:14:29 PM
Having had a reasonable number of outings in 2661 (now renamed Major Tom), with a selection of crews (read victims) the breakage count is still one per outing (which is consistent at least). Having struggled with the concept of going upwind, looking for some advice on how to make upwind handling more manageable.

Tom doesn't seem to have the ability to point upwind as when we get close to the wind (<30 degree) we lose power and stall, causing us to capsize. Also when we tack round to go up wind, as we pass through head to wind Tom can stall and lose all momentum. This loss of speed causes the boat to tip backwards and to capsize, are there any suggestions for ways to improve the pointing ability and improve stability through tacks? Or is it just a case of taking wider beats upwind, more rig tension and lots and lots of practice (read swimming).
Title: Re: Upwind in a cherub?
Post by: kerrgreg on April 24, 2017, 02:24:52 PM
Cant remember to well how 2661 was setup...

It really comes down to a few things, typically the cherubs sail low and fast, climbing upwind with the apparent wind.

That being said, typically you need some really high kicker loads, and some of the older boats are finding now that they tend to have a wide sheeting angle and can get away with a shorter effect jib track on the self tackers. You also really need to work the main and keep the boat dead flat.

With Madge (another bistro) the previous owner had the boat going pretty well up wind, we ran about 100kg of rig tension on the shrouds and 150 on the bow.

hope this helps...
Title: Re: Upwind in a cherub?
Post by: JP233 on April 25, 2017, 07:13:49 PM
Have a read of this.
Born slippys comenets do suffice!

http://www.uk-cherub.org/forum/index.php/topic,1892.0.html

Also:

http://www.uk-cherub.org/forum/index.php/topic,1905.msg20298.html#msg20298