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Cherub Chat => Calendar Events => Topic started by: andy_peters on October 05, 2016, 10:18:04 AM
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All,
An early notification that the 2017 Nationals will be held at Stone SC on the 19th to 22nd August**. Shared with the 4K's as per the past couple of years.
It is an excellent venue for Cherubs with plenty of space to rig and launch. There is also camping on-site which I believe is free.
With this much notice there is no excuse not to be there.
** 31/10/16 - Note the slight date change of 2 days
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Do we sail on the estuary or out in the bay?
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That's interesting.
As the last few events i've attended with the18s (the ones you have missed) have been fine and a very nice enjoyable event and good racing.
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Stone is an excellent venue and the club and atmosphere awesome. A great venue in my opinion. Enough space to rig without upsetting anyone or getting in the way of others. Quite a tidal current if there is no wind and high possibilities of running aground is always part of the race course if you are using the corners!
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Do we sail on the estuary or out in the bay?
I think in the estuary not far from the club. At neaps. Should be plenty of room for a course whatever the wind direction. If they can fit 18's they can fit us.
I'm looking forward to it. A new venue for me and one I have heard good things about.
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Quite early I know but does anyone have any recommendations for accommodation round there?
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Quite early I know but does anyone have any recommendations for accommodation round there?
Dont fancy camping?
There are a couple of places on airbnb?
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Quite early I know but does anyone have any recommendations for accommodation round there?
Dont fancy camping?
There are a couple of places on airbnb?
Hold off booking anything just yet. Apparently the first day clashes with A level results and a date change to the 19th to 22nd has been requested. Will post confirmation soon.
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Sounds great. I've heard nothing but good things from the people who have sailed there a number of times. We'll hopefully be along.
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Great to see the Cherubs back on the East Coast, used to be a massive stronghold, I am sure Stone will offer a great all round venue with plenty of great racing, great socials and plenty of opportunity for the spanking paddle - who knows which old guys may turn up !
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All - please note the date change to 19-22nd August. Same location - Stone
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I have booked 19-22 August off work :)
Just have to pluck up the courage to tell Mrs C. now. :-\
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Great to see the Cherubs back on the East Coast, used to be a massive stronghold, I am sure Stone will offer a great all round venue with plenty of great racing, great socials and plenty of opportunity for the spanking paddle - who knows which old guys may turn up !
You please - someone needs to slow your son down ;D
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Neil just say it is a medical/surgical convention
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The clubs website says there is a limited amount of camping on site, does anyone know how much limited means? We were thinking of going on the Friday will the club be open for tent pitching/ bar and maybe a cheeky sail.
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Rosie and I plan to get there on Friday too.
I would be very surprised if club people weren't there setting up.
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Slight change of plan for us accommodation wise. Now staying at park dean waterside campsite in a static caravan. Still coming on Friday though.
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Likewise, Sven and I are planning on showing up late on on the Friday, and camping at the club.
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Friday afternoon arrival planned, and camping at the club
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no confirmed plans yet regarding arrival.
But I am looking for a crew, so anyone who wants to helm/crew let me know.
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Entry is now open for the nationals on the Cherub home page.
Direct link here.
http://www.uk-cherub.org/doku.php/news/2013/2017/07222017_national_entry_now_open
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Whats the likely format of the event?
IE will there be planned socials and meals etc run by either ourselves or the club?
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entry done see you there
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Entered also
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And EJ
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A+E also entered.
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Whats the likely format of the event?
IE will there be planned socials and meals etc run by either ourselves or the club?
There will be breakfasts and evening hot food for purchase at the club. We plan to have the AGM on Sunday night and some games and a BBQ on Monday.
Prize giving will be after racing on Tuesday.
Friday/Saturday the club/bar will be open. Food available Saturday - I will check on Friday. There is a pub close by.
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Eleanor entered.
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Marmite entered
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10 Entries recieved so far. Keep them coming.
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Is it ok to enter on the day??
And, if I do get there, I probably wont have sailed new squid, so can I ask for some help/advice/pointers setting the rig up on the Saturday morning? I can be in the boat park early.....
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you can enter onthe day but we would like to keep it all on paypal if possible to ease the management of the money.
I will be setting up a paypal option to pay for memebership as well.
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I'm planning on arriving Friday night and camping at the club. Please save me a Hayley-sized spot (well, preferably enough for a small 2 man tent...). Looking forward to seeing you all
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Arriving Friday aswell may need room for a tent aswell.
Is anyone bringing a pump for an mattress as ours will be needed elsewhere.
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Arriving Friday aswell may need room for a tent aswell.
Is anyone bringing a pump for an mattress as ours will be needed elsewhere.
I have a mains powered one i can throw in the car just in case you need it.
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Another random question. Will anyone be bringing a sewing machine?
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i can if required but its in need of a good service.
i will also bring a large eletric scale (so site boats on it vs hang boats) and will have it out from friday afternoon.
Please can all boats arriving weigh themselves before they get rigged.
thanks
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Don't bring it specially for me, have a foot loop that needs attention but it's not critical.
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Which is the best wind forecast for where we will be sailing?
Blackwater and jersey get different results
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You can select Stone sailing club on WindGuru, however that seems to differ from the BBC (I used Southminster ) about the only thing to do is look at as many sites as possible, work out the average, add 20 percent if your Mr Croote. Check all this against tide data, then throw the paper in the recycling because it's bound to be a load of horlicks. Prepare for the worst hope for the best, looking forward to seeing you all soon.
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I think that the best forecast is the one that says that it will be 15 knots, 25C and sunny.
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Anyone got a pair of rwo bungs?
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Have some spare Rwo screw in bungs, but not the part they screw into.
Will bring them along in case they are useful.
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Have some spare Rwo screw in bungs, but not the part they screw into.
Will bring them along in case they are useful.
Sounds just like the ones I need, martyn also has some so hopefully between us we have it sorted, otherwise duck tape will be the order of the day!
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The committee would like to host a BBQ for the fleet and family Saturday night at the house we have rented just round the corner from the club.
Please bring drink and we will provide the food.
Clive
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How did it go?
(Reports on sailing or burger flipping skills enjoyed by those stuck in another country)
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Vague report from Marmite indicated a modicum of wind served with an (un)healthy quantity of weed.
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Wind forecast was 15 gusting 20, and there was certainly that much. There was a LOT of weed and current. Plus shallow bits that several of us discovered quite soon after the start of race 1.
Results: no idea - will post later.
Injuries: Other than to pride, nothing of note.
Competition for the Ashes trophy: very hot
- A&E: weed attack -> shroud failure -> broken mast
- Usagi: jib cleat mounting block detached
- Shiny: collapse of gooseneck mounting
- EJ: weed attack -> strange twisting of gantry -> both gantry bolt fixings detached
- Squid: jib track detached from the deck
- Beans: broken spreader and hull damage from trolley
- Riot van: split rudder stock
And probably more.
97 rules: All ok here. Pocket Rocket living up to her name.
Forecast for today is a welcome 10 gusting 15, and the sun is out already.
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Better day today for almost all the fleet except:
- A&E - Clive & Alex off home having sold the boat to the Harrises (mast to follow once back in one piece, and
- Banshee Ambulance - delaminated daggerboard.
10 g15 but with spells either side of this. Plenty of sunshine and pink people.
Weed still a problem but we mostly seem to have worked out where the edges are.
Extra race tomorrow as the forecast for Tuesday is a bit light.
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Yesterdays results
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We had the 4 race day as mentioned by Jay yesterday, held in light winds cross tide which kept people on their toes. No sailing today as the wind failed to co-operate. Full report to follow.
Winners - Eddie and Sam
2nd Andy & Jill
3rd Paul and Ed
4th Jonny and Alex
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Excellent very well run event. Great social and chilled out club with good food too.
Thanks for making this happen.
http://championmarinephotography.co.uk - event pictures will be posted here according to poster at the club. - nothing yet.
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I've had a quiet afternoon back at work so have written a draft report (not the sort my boss was expecting).
Stone SC on the Blackwater is only an hour or so by slow train from London but it feels a world away with its opens spaces, wide horizon and lack of planes overhead. The pace of life seems slower here, the only thing that moves quickly is the tide and that could give Usain Bolt a good race. There was a chilled out vibe about the recent Cherub Nationals, the sort of in touch with nature that makes you want to run naked through the club like the winner of the infamous Spanking Paddle. With plenty of gently sloping beach to rig, a good area to camp on site and a nearby house rented by the Cherub committee things looked set up for 4 days of competitive racing and BBQ’s.
Some doubts were expressed before the first race if the river would allow a long enough course. With a good force 4-6 blowing straight down the channel against the tide those doubts were swiftly erased with a 45 minute race consisting of just 2 laps. Thankfully we had trapezes or the mile beat against the tide could have finished peoples regattas there and then. Talking of which the old adage is you can’t win a regatta on the first day but you sure can lose it. Clive and Alex Everest cane to Stone with high hopes of being the first foiling Cherub to win a Nationals. Significantly faster if the conditions were right the weather forecast was looking promising. What wasn’t so promising was the wind against tide chop and then an ebbing spring tide full of weed. Enough weed to entrap a foiler and drag it down to Davy Jones locker. One broken mast later and the only prize the unfortunate Everests took home was the Ashes awarded for best boat destruction.
So what did we learn on the first day? We learnt that previous National Champion crew Eddie Briddle has become older and quicker and teamed up with Sam they outpaced the normal Princes of heavy weather Paul Croote and Ed Higham. We also learnt that Phil and Carol Alderson 97 rules Cherub is fast, in fact the fastest seen in years, those years being the ones since Phil and Carol last came south from Largs. A few of us learnt that a river has unseen edges well before dry land, usually a painful learning experience involving a trip around the forestay and some daggerboard bimbling in the evening. At the close of play Eddie and Sam had a clear lead over Paul and Ed and other title hopefuls such as the Peters and the Harrises had a mixed day with a lot to do if they could claw back for a series win. The day finished with the biggest lesson of all – Clive Everest can feed the Cherub fleet with a BBQ at the committee house (ably “assisted” by Jo Pratt and Jill Peters). One Commodores Reception and a late bar later the final lesson was learnt by Greg Paton-Kerr. Unless you like late morning hangovers don’t stay up drinking with Clive.
Day 2 dawned with a more moderate wind to the relief of some. 3 more decent sized races were held and a few more lessons were learnt. We learnt that although Eddie has now finished school he still can’t count to four, handing the first race to Jill and Andy Peters and we learnt that although the Peters can count they can confuse an anchored cruising boat for the committee boat and try and finish off that. We learnt that as the wind moderates Dave Ching and Haley Trim are quick but prone to the odd race losing moment, however don’t cross them as they will rip you off your boat as the Davy winning Dean Ralph found out to his cost (and several large bruises). We also learnt that Eddie and Sam lose no speed as the wind moderates retaining their lead overall. The big movers of the day were Andy and Jill with a 1,1,2 scoreline propelling them upto 3rd. Phil and Carol were still dominating not only the 97 rules but a few newer boats as well. Our final lesson of the day was that Stone SC can knock up a very decent roast dinner for hungry sailors.
Day 3 and with a lightening forecast the race officer had altered the SI’s to run a 4th race. The wind was cross tide giving a new challenge for the fleets mental melting pots. A few of those burnt out resulting in a bit of mark loving, some committee boat loving but happily a lot of very close racing. We learnt that getting the first beat right was crucial and propelled a few new faces to the front with Jamie and Rosie in Shinny Beast making a few appearances near the front, Jay and Sven having a better day with terrifically illegal downwind speed (allegedly until proven later) and some others having a day they would rather forget. Andy and Jill were again just the fastest but not fast enough. A crucial last bit of defending by Eddie and Sam in the final race saw them go into the closing day with a 4 point lead over the Peters. The day was rounded off by another great meal from Stone, this time their take on a BBQ, followed by Cherub games night unfortunately won by a 4000 sailor. In true Cherub style there was some betting on favourites and unfortunately some lost their shirts, no wait, their trousers.
The final day dawned with a mirror over the surface of the river Blackwater a fitful breeze did fill in but not enough to ensure fair racing and so the final day was cancelled. The Cherub class would like to thank Stone SC and all who gave up their time to run our event (and in particular Caroline and Wendy) for the brilliant hospitality from the club, the food, the 2 bars, the race management, the rescue cover (tested on the first day and not found wanting) the camping, the perfect length Commodores speech, I could go on but in short they did us proud. I would also like to thank the 4000 class for being such genial co-competitors.
Full results to follow however the Cherub fleet has been in existence for over 60 years and we have a few special prizes:
• 1st 97 rules boat – dominated by Phil and Carol Alderson from Largs SC in Pocket Rocket
• 1st Lady – for the 6th time in the past 7 years Jill ‘the teapot’ Peters from Queen Mary in Usagi Yojimbo
• The Ashes (best boat destruction) Alex and Clive Everest for their foiling mast breaking efforts on day 1 and for then selling their boat (minus mast which they have to fix)
• The Davy for best capsize – Dean Ralph from Isle of Sheppy in (or rather not in) Eleanor. Never mess with Dave Ching or he will rip you from your boat, toss you in the air and put you in the tide!
• Didgeri don’t (for the team that promised so much but delivered so little) Nick Pratt and Andy Whapshott, with the most pimped boat and a crew specially recruited for the event hopes were high after day 1. Unfortunately as the wind faded so did those hopes.
• Best improver – Dave Ching and Haley Trim in Little Chilli – devastatingly quick in the light and a number of strong races pulled them up the leader board from last year
And last but not least the Spanking Paddle for worst behaviour at the regatta. Awarded to the posterior of the winner by last year’s winner. The chilled nature of Stone dulled competition a little but there were several worthy entries. After several years of trying finally won by Robin Jones for his 70’s porn star look whilst streaking through the club after one too many shandies. The fleet expects worse next year.
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We now have a 'coming soon' link on the photographers webpage.
Before anyone buys from him, can we try to get a group buy deal off him?
I'd be happy to look in to setting this up.
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We now have a 'coming soon' link on the photographers webpage.
Before anyone buys from him, can we try to get a group buy deal off him?
I'd be happy to look in to setting this up.
Good plan
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Excellent regatta report Andy. That's the most entertaining report I've read in ages. Hope everyone had a great time.
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Report online:
http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/198132/Cherub-Nationals-at-Stone
If you finished in the top 10 then please fill out the gear report:
http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/class/Cherub/#GearGuide
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Makes me smile to see Bethnal Green marine, P Croote and Pearson Engineering in the drop down options. :D
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Excellent very well run event. Great social and chilled out club with good food too.
Thanks for making this happen.
http://championmarinephotography.co.uk - event pictures will be posted here according to poster at the club. - nothing yet.
Photos on the site now
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Going to phone him and ask how much for all of them tomorrow with the ability to use in publications.
But there does seem to be some good ones in there!
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Check out photo 17. I think it is the Davy award winning moment.
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P17 (124) shame he didn't get a time lapse of the 5 seconds before that!
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Love the photos, copies of a few of them would be good