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Cherub Chat => Calendar Events => Topic started by: Phil Alderson on March 28, 2010, 09:58:24 PM
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What: The East Coast Travellers Trophy event has been arranged!
Where: Whitstable YC, Kent (http://www.wyc.org.uk/)
When: 5th and 6th June 2010
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Probably not my place but just a shout out that the first event is rapidly approaching at Whitstable 5th-6th June. For those of you that have never been Whitstable offers fantastic sailing and launching facilities.
Theres been a stuttering of a Cherub fleet there in the last few years, and I know that people have lobbied hard to get cherubs included in their usual B14/musto skiff event; its a very skiff friendly place and there interest from existing members that we might be able to convert into fleet members !
I live a fair drive away (best part of 1hr) - but if anyone wants a bed (old people have first dibs on a bed !) or floor space you'd be very welcome.
Would be fantastic to get some numbers there, so start your planning now !
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Well said Graham, we have lobbied hard for this event so please come and support it if your able.
Likewise I live about 40mins from the club and can offer accomodation.
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What is the normal time of the first race on Sat?
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I'll find out for you. On another note if anyone needs a crew for this one I'm available.......Please
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I plan to attend with Alex and the Badger. Not sure how long it will take me to get there.... I am guessing quite a long time from Devon!
Looking forward to it ;D
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ill check my calendar but im no sure ddigby can make it yet so i may be looking to crew or to find one, ill know deffo tonight
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Sarah Can't make this weekend but I can bring E-numbers. Simon will you mind being guest crew?
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We plan to be there. Might use the 200 if it is honking, I wonder if it measures ;D
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Exultant will be there.
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Phil you have yourself a crew! Do you need a bed that weekend?
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Simon you are a star. Kippage would be appreciated since I haven't even thoguht that far. Hoping that it isn't too honking.
Despite lots of Cycling my fighting weight hasn't dropped below 71.7kg
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Attached is the notice of race
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well it sounds like i'm coming to this event with Dave
Should be good. Hope we have time to get some training in.
cheers nick
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Yep Nick and I will be there!
So add 1 green Shiny to the list.
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Current roll call is something like this:
Ronin
Antidote
Usagi
Born Slippy
E Numbers
Riot Van
Exultant
Zuffle
Badgers
Shiney Beast
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Tom and Sarah will also be there in Loco
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Sorry we won't be able to make it we are in Minorca, and judging by Saturdays sailing we need it!
I can here Luke now... with a surprised and slightly terrified look on his face, shouting, as I am hanging off the trap line... " what? How do a trapeze? Where's the hook, Ahh....!"
I thought he did quite well all things considered. ;D
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So...
Ronin
Antidote
Usagi
Born Slippy
E Numbers
Riot Van
Exultant
Zuffle
Badgers
Shiney Beast
Loco
What about Subtle and Monkey? They're both local.
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may be able to wheedle our way into attending with cheese, stand by for further information :)
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What about Subtle and Monkey? They're both local.
Transmission from Monkey Magic:
"That's a negative Cougar, the exam pattern is full..."
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anyone passing the midlands on their way with a double-stacker trailer (birmingham/worcester way) that could give a lift????
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Yep Nick and I will be there!
So add 1 green Shiny to the list.
I hope the knife will be able to put an appearance in but I am fighting the reality I might have to go away with the wife!!!!!!! At the moment I am trying to earn a pass for the weekend since i managed to be training kids the last time we planned to go away! I'll keep you posted
Monkey
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If anyone is still in need of accomodation for this event I have floor space or garden space for the diehard campers.
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we may need some of that simon, will let everyone know if we are coming this weekend
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John, any news on whether you can make it? Also Ewan did you manage a weekend pass?
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my instructers coyrse has had to be rescheduled due to the bank holiday. It now finishes on saturday :'( so we will not be able to make this one.
Im gutted, it sounds like it will be a great event, have fun all of you!
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Transmission from the club:
'There will be FREE CHILLI at the club on Friday.'
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Damn it, I wasn't going to arrive in Whitstable until Saturday morning... this is a spanner in the works!
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Transmission from Chris lewns, Antidotes new owner:
"plentiful camping about 10 mins drive from club"
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We are arriving Friday evening, so make sure there is plenty of rice. Jill can eat her own body weight of the stuff.
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We are arriving Friday evening, so make sure there is plenty of rice. Jill can eat her own body weight of the stuff.
To be fair that is still less than I'll eat in an average sitting - Jill is a fully paid up member of the TCCU.
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Just to highlight this from the NOR for the weekend....
"...CONDITIONS OF ENTRY
The event is open to MPS, B14 and Cherub Class dinghies. All boats must be paid up members of the Class Association... "
We'll allow it if at least one crew member of the boat is a paid up member, but would be nice if both were!
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We will bring our cheque book with us.
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We have seem to have a whole range of accomodation options, from homestays to camping. So I hought I'd throw one more into the mixing pot. I take posession of my house tomorrow (Friday) so I'll have floor space available and a famous Tinner Breakfast!
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Dear All,
One of our duties as a fleet is to help move the large number of Tasars and Lasers along the beach tonight. I have about 4 people confirmed, which is probably fine, but if you are available please do come down as a few extra hands never go amiss. There is also free chilli too. People are coming at 4ish, but any time you could come would be welcome.
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Tinner -the home owner Crickey!
There are some myths that you need to know.
Homes don't need repaired with epoxy, polyfiller is fine.
Fronting plates are also not required to attach shelves and pictures. (a simple screw and rawl plug are sufficient)
Cleaning is also not neccesary but i suspect you know that. (It's a wives tale that houses need to be cleaned once a week)!
Curtains are essential to avoid the sun reflecting off the TV.
Cushions are accepable if they come with furniture. Additional cushions are only bought buy women. They serve no additional purpose (the cushions that is).
i hope this helps.
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Cushions are accepable if they come with furniture. Additional cushions are only bought buy women. They serve no additional purpose (the cushions that is).
Haha, you can barely see my sofa for the number of cushions... I will have to show this info to Kate!
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ps. look forward to seeing everyone tomorrow morning. Looks like the sun will be shining!
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Any news i've spent most of the day covered in cow s**t and the rest breaking up the concrete patio i desperate need news of a cheruby nature! ;D
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Additional cushions are only bought buy women. They serve no additional purpose (the cushions that is).
Not quite correct: additional cushions do serve as ad hoc pillows when you a bunch of less than sober sailors staying. For the same reason chairs and sofas should have detachable back/vertical cushions so they can be spread on the floor to increase the accomodation...
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Not sure what actually happened in the racing. 11 boats turned up over the weekend.
Team EJ had a shocker. Day 1 sense of humour failure by helm. Day 2 complete failure o kite system. 3 starts, no finishes - officially our worse results for a weekend ever. On the other hand it was lovely to see everyone and we did actually have a lovely time.
Davro - your boat looks awesome
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Thanks for a brilliant weekend to all who made it, hopefully the first of many at Whitstable it was great to have so many make the trip. Also nice to see that the results were mixed and things were a lot closer than may have been previously. A special thanks for Phill and Sarah for letting me sail, I'm sure I'll have recovered by wednesday!
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Davro - your boat looks awesome
Funny, I was having a look at the Whitstable webcam a few hours ago, thinking wow, that looks just like Davro's boat. So it was! The whole thing was a bit bizarre, sitting in Newcastle looking at an open meeting 300 miles away! Does this qualify me for some kind of geek award?
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I could kick myself i forgot all about the webcam i could have had a few looks while i wash smashing up the patio yesterday :-\
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davro? (im tired so not quite understanding things (exams)) this could be very simple but what?
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Davro = Dave Roe
Designer of the Italian Bistro and Pasta Frenzy, builder of Norwegian Blue and the Pasta Frenzy, multiple National Championships winner and all-round Cherub demi-god.
(Just send the money to the usual place Dave)
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Davro is Dave Roe. Multiple nats winner and legend of legends.
This was a completely amazing weekend: good turnout, good breeze. Really good racing. Good curry based foodstuffs. I am really going to suffer on my bike in the morning!
4 races on day one, three today. Predominantly lighter airs. Shared open with musto skiffs and b14s.
Too knackered to go now.
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I've just got back to devon and am officially knackered. Excellent weekend, thanks everyone. 550 mile round trip! ::)
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To show everyone how good it was, can we have a report on the front page please
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I appear to be one "Arup" logo'ed kit bag short.
If anyone has seen it or has a contact number for the club it would be much appreciated.
R
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davro? (im tired so not quite understanding things (exams)) this could be very simple but what?
Which is his boat?
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2660 the pasta frenzy
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I appear to be one "Arup" logo'ed kit bag short.
If anyone has seen it or has a contact number for the club it would be much appreciated.
R
Talk to Lucy. Perhaps she can collect your bag at the same time she is collecting mine.........
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A great effort by the RC over the weekend with very well run races with true courses. Spliting fleets could be possible if the committee boat was central with a start line on the starboard bow and a finish line on the port bow. Requires a little organisation but it is then possible to get starts for one fleet going whilst a later fleet is still finishing. Used to great effect in the spring and winter white fleet on the solent. It does of course place a reliance on sailors knowing their basic flags.
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I really enjoyed the event much partly due to the excellent crew work from Simon who taught me a lot and helped me gain confidence in the boat. We did find the starts difficult due to the dirty air caused by the B14's which appear to more controlable and manoeuvreable at low speeds.
I kept thinking I was in an Enterprise with more momentum and manoeuvrability and 90 degree tacking angles.
The windward mark and run was the place to overtake them. Smooth bearaway over the top of them. Hoist ,hook on and leave them for dead.
I was surprised that we were able engage in a little gybing duel with Riot van at one of the leeward marks pulling off three pressured low speed gybes without swimming.
The race management was slick although the course choice did not allow the RO to finish lapped boats earlier. I would have opted for a single course with longer beats for the faster classes and or start the fleets at 3 minute intervals . When sailing with multipule starts you do have to look out for the other classes.
We didn't realy get any bad feeling from the B14's. We were trying to go for clear air and avoid getting too close to other boats where possible. One beating B14 did suggest we (running) should go behind him rather than cross infront. He was either being kind or assuming that we were beginners. I acknowledged his request with a freindly ok as it was my intention to soak behind him.
I think sailors need to be firmer with bad language and behavior between boats. And perhaps a few more protests would stop the bullies from getting away with it. A firm shout of protest and get on with the race. They may respond with more colourful language adding more ammo. to your case.
I have started penning a report which I will submit to Y&Y and put on the front page. i need some stuff to go in it though. eg. funny incidents top moves and happenings from the fleet on and off the water.
Any help would be appreciated. I can't recall some races.
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£3 chilli. Camping at chez Lewns. Kipping at chez Jones. New house at chez Tinner!
Race 1: Long. Light airs with occasional puffs. Antidote rounded ahead of Usagi. Usagi then soaked away to a massive lead and went on to win. We caught them up a bit each beat, but they disappeared downhill each downwind leg. Shifting NEly breeze in the beautiful sunshine.
Race 2: A bit more wind. Antidote. I think this is the one where E numbers and Usagi and Antidote were all really flying down the run, but the issue was settled by both Usagi and E numbers taking a swim.
Race 3: Bit more puff. I think this was the one where Antidote got to the top mark first ahead of all the B14's. A few past us when the breeze went right down again. Antidote.
Race 4: I was a ruin by this stage. Antidote.
Cloudier. A Wly wind filled in at ~5-7 knots, so after a postponement we were off.
Race 5:
Race 6: (may have wrong race) Usagi lead the whole way round until a late surge in the wind allowed Antidote to catch up and give gas to Usagi by gybing on their air. That was a completely new experience for me. I don't think I have ever (been on a boat which) used windshadows tactically downwind in my life (quite an admission I know...)
Race 7: Riot Van was second. The sun came out and the wind switched round to a thermal NNWly before reverting to a stronger SSWly where it stayed and built for the rest of the day. Dave Roe and Maf Kiddle went for a long awaited burn in the Pasta Frenzy.
Racing was finished for the day.
Memories: Mostly the luff of the kite and the block on the floor which I have to pull the kite halyard around.
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Race 5 antidote led from start to finish
Race 6 usagi lead on first beat, antidote caught and over took but on last run usagi caught up an enormous with a devastating amount of speed requiring antidote to gybe and cover for the last few yards into the finish. Boats finished overlapped. Very exciting.
My memories were of Will saying how fit and stong Lucy must be to crew.
Great time I hope was had by all.
C
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No doubt about that. I am completely broken today.
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Race 7 Usagi lead the first round, Antidote passed them on 2nd beat. Usagi rammed by B14 on 2nd leeward mark lost 2 places, large windshift turned race into procession. Riot Van 2nd, E-numbers third. Wind shift gave good blast home.
No guessing which aspect of upwind/downwind Usagi will be asking Pete to concentrate on during the training day. Antidote upwind speed simply too hot for all other Cherubs (and B14's......)
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sounds like a good time was had by all and a lot of lessons learned, and plenty of questions to ask Pete about at the training!
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I also feel broken today from all the crouching and stepping in and out and I know Simon was doing most of the work. Need to get fitter before the nationals. It was interesting that the hoists got slower towards the end of each day.
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It was interesting that the hoists got slower towards the end of each day.
Haha, I feel that! Combination of a fading strength and dying hands!
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You're not wrong!
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GPS tracks from the weekend:
http://www.mapmytracks.com/Antidote
(the top three tracks are Fri, Sat and Sun)
These are more fun than a training tool at the moment.
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2660 the pasta frenzy
Back on the water? How long has it been? Was it 2003 that Davro decided to put the Frenzy on a diet and make it thinner? The Seven year rebuild? I do remember her sitting in Dave's front room for months, or was it years, with part of the topsides missing... What's the current configuration, still flares, or wing bars and things?
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Jim, there are some pics on Davro's FACEBOOK page. I'm sure if you poke him he'll be your FB friend so you can see 'em.
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Do we have a list of results yet?
or was it a complete mess?
Shiny is 05 not 97
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The last I saw, they looked a complete mess... but not sure what happened after I had left!
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There are some on the WYC website but they remain to some extent a work of fiction rather than fact
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I asked nicely yesterday if they would post the results for our fleet. They have but not the set that Simon spent a lot of time calculating for them.
Sunday's racing was recorded correctly. Saturday's results will show the boats that finished a lap early to be higher than their true position.
These results need to be correctedso we have a true result for the traveller's series.
I suggest that we also record them on the main site along with an overal table of results for the series.
I know that there was some discussion about the sailing instructions for the series. Have any been derived yet?
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So what happens when two boats are tied on points at an event?
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Those results are not correct for EJ.
We had 2 DNF's on day 1 (race 1 race2) ;D
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Think we need to wait and see what the actual results looked like before we make any decisions, I can spot some issues just looking at it now. In race 2, as nice as it would be if Lucy and Matt came 2nd... they were a lap down, and I am pretty sure that in the last race we didn't finish behind Stu and Ross as I think you guys were out of position when the wind shifted etc. So with only 4 points covering 5th to 8th, those places aren't certain at all!
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Simon and I were 2nd in race 2.
In hindsight we should have held on to the paper copy of the results that Simon had updated for the club. They were more valuable to us than the club.
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Oh well such is life.
Most of our reults were determined by some random number generator but we ended up in the correct final postion.
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WYC have found the originall results sheet that was amended by us on sat. they are posting it to me so we can update the results for the travelers series.
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That marks the club as truely very nice people - can we come back next year?
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Photos of the event here:
http://www.championmarinephotography.co.uk/view_gallery.asp?gallery=Musto%20-%20B14%20-%20Cherub-%20Open%20WYC