UK-Cherub Forum
Cherub Chat => Sailing Stories => Topic started by: ross_burkin on March 04, 2008, 12:26:11 AM
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Is this a new add? http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F169158 (http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F169158)
£55!
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Dunno but I have just emailed to find out.
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Still for sale. I have asked owner for pics.
W
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me and a few friends are looking at it and have asked for pics/more details aswell as we may well get it and do it up...
you never know we could even go to the nationals!
take it nothing about it is known?
James
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No number yet. Do your pics show a sail number?
W
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Hi
Unfortunatly i dont have any pics at the moment,
What else would you like to know? it is a green grp hull with a ply deck. I had intended to remove the deck, and add a space frame ( like new cherubs) as well as bowsprit, big kite etc etc. Unfortunatly i wont now have the time.
I am based in southampton if you would like to come and have a look.
john
^^ thats what i got, have emailed for more info on it
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What else would you like to know? it is a green grp hull with a ply deck. I
Endless possibilities... If its genuinely GRP as opposed to foam sandwich then its most likely one of the Seaflite Jennifer Julians from the late 70s, but there were also glass forman 4s and even earlier Gregs. There was a pretty well known glass Forman 4 which had foam reinforcement in the hull floor, visible as seprate lumps if my memory serves me right, which was quite notable for a while. Any non sandwich GRP boat is a "don't touch with a bargepole" job when it comes to putting a modern large rig on, because they weren't really stiff enough with rthe rig they were designed for. In fact its probably a don't touch anyway unless in exceptional condition: by the time you've got a rig and everything else.... There was *one* Foam Sandwich Jennifer Julian in the very early 70s. That would be a boat I would love to find, as its probably the single most historic "unknown" dinghy in the world if it still exists (probably first foam racing dinghy in the UK, part built by Russ Bowler ). Converting that one would be a crime against humanity, and I'd love to find it to sit alongside Queenie SJB.
I don't know if we've got any modern ie post Amber Dragon foam boats missing that might have had a ply deck. Will, any ideas? An Omega boats Forman 8s would be another more recent possibility: they were foam. That could be usable for an entry level boat. Transom pictures and bow pictures would be key for identification.
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or some flash photos inside the tanks so we can see what she's made of!
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Hi Jim,
I don't think I found 2639, but I think that one was ply. Don't forget I was only targetting 2637 onwards.
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I don't think I found 2639, but I think that one was ply.
Having dug out a spreadsheet I made some years ago I believe 2639 to have been wood and scrapped in 2001. I think between us we can eliminate every boat built after 2623 from being this one, so a Forman 8s would be about the latest candidate. That would be worth having I think: an 80s vintage boat.
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i know this is slightly off topic but i'm as ever curious, how do you go about tracing the boats from yesteryear?
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I wrote an article about it for the newsletter for the 2004 dinghy show. I do not have a pdf. Does anyone else?
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the guy selling that boat does not know the sail number or what design it is.
going to steer well clear i think!
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"steer well clear"... and into the direction of Flat Stanley. A bargin at £1100 ONO.
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Have you bought Therapy then Ross seen as it's no longer for sale and Flat Stanley is?
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Therepy has gone to Brightlingsea. The next boat hasn't been confirmed so I don't want to say anything. Stanley and Eggbert would make a really nice pair, don't you think? ;D
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"steer well clear"... and into the direction of Flat Stanley. A bargin at £1100 ONO.
erm no thanks
i would be shot for doing a lot of stuff to it! oh and the 14 does me nicely atm :D
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I'm considering buying it and putting a symmetric boat together. After talking to people at the show and watching the new youtube vids (thanks Daryl) they look like a right giggle! The thought of going faster than furballs on a tight 3 sail reach is just too tempting. The ultimate pursuit racer in a blow.
Any idea where I can get sails and masts? The mast is easier to find as not many people want an old tin mast and there are plenty laying around.
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But you've already got the definitive Cherub for sailing with a pole kite... I just had a symmetric kite made by Caws, and you could get a pole made up for a fraction of what putting this one together would cost you...
I may try and look at this boat. Should it be the 1971 foam Jennifer Julian Shell its worth preserving, should it be a Forman8s its possibly worth collecting and making available for someone who wants a project. But should it be one of the horrible CSM glass boats that were made, as is most likely, then it really is a skip job.
If you want a pole kite boat then reasonable wood boats come up from time to time and are far far better... I've just put a new interior in my IC. I never keep the bills, because it depresses me, but I reckon it cost a good couple of grand, even with the same rig and most fittings. Putting a bare shell back together with no rig or gear is going to cost you at least 4K... You can start with this bare shell for 65quid, spend 4K and end up with a boat worth 1K, or buy a new shell from Bloodaxe for probably under 2K, spend another 4k and end up with a boat worth 8K. It shouldn't be a hard decision!
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ive got a symetrical kite that looks in really good nick i have never even un folded it but it feels crisp
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ive got a symetrical kite that looks in really good nick i have never even un folded it but it feels crisp
I wish I'd known that before I got a new one made last summer... I'd have made you an offer...
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http://sailingdinghies.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=90184
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2533.
Designed and built by T Thornton of 40 Cecil Street HIllhead, Glasgow.
Measured by Bennie Turnbull on 16th April 1978: 30 years ago!
Looks in very good shape.
07826341182 is the seller: Bruce Davidson.
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Looks in very good shape to me, what I particularly like is the well preserved dolphin main (and presumably jib) - the "must have" sails back in the late 70's. I do hope it still has the brown battens !
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When I read that advert I get extreme deja-vu. I'm sure I've seen it on ebay!