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Off Topic => Lead Luggers => Topic started by: JimC on March 05, 2009, 08:13:54 PM

Title: Can you spot that?
Post by: JimC on March 05, 2009, 08:13:54 PM
Can you spot the boats, the connection and the significance?
Title: Re: Can you spot that?
Post by: Will_Lee on March 06, 2009, 06:43:15 PM
No, no, and no. (Sorry).

I would like to know, though!
Title: Re: Can you spot that?
Post by: JimC on March 11, 2009, 10:25:17 AM
Two ground breakers - or at elast as close as we can get...
The bottom one is a Spencer mk2 Cherub, which is probably as close as we can get to the first Cherub, arguably the most influential dinghy built since the war...
The top one is Infidel/Ragtime, John Spencer's ground shattering keelboat, which is arguably the most influential keel boat built since the war...

One is twelve feet long, one is 65 feet long with an extended transom, but they're not hugely different!
Title: Re: Can you spot that?
Post by: Will_Lee on March 11, 2009, 10:36:48 AM
The only thing I noticed was the long transom on the top one - v interesting - thanks.
Title: Re: Can you spot that?
Post by: Stuberry on March 11, 2009, 01:52:55 PM
For those who don't know anything about Infidel / Ragtime there's an interesting article here (http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/news/07/rags/)

Jim, can you fill us in on the story of how;

"she was effectively pushed out of racing in the Southern Hemisphere by 1970 due to her radical lightweight design."
Title: Re: Can you spot that?
Post by: JimC on March 13, 2009, 08:53:06 AM
Quote from: stu_tinner on March 11, 2009, 01:52:55 PM
"she was effectively pushed out of racing in the Southern Hemisphere by 1970 due to her radical lightweight design."
She was banned from the Sydney Hobart. AIUI they changed the qualification rules shortly before the event especially to stop very light weight boats, of which there was only one. I don't know the whole story, and I have it 3rd or 4th hand. CT 249 would know more...
Title: Re: Can you spot that?
Post by: Neil C. on March 13, 2009, 07:54:49 PM
According to the article, Ragtime has been re-fitted with a new carbonfibre rig, asymmetric spinnaker and a revolutionary new rudder. I reckon John Spencer is looking down, pretty pleased that all his boats have gone the same way!