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Cherub Chat => Calendar Events => Topic started by: Stuberry on February 12, 2009, 11:56:28 AM
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What? Training weekend with Pete Barton.
When? 2nd & 3rd May, 0930 - 1700
Where? Queen Mary Sailing Club - West London
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I am currently trying to work out the costs per boat for attending this . The class will subsidise some of the costs of the weekend but it would help if people could give me an indication of whether they are going to attend so that i can work out how much it will cost each boat. The more boats we get the cheaper it will be for people
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Count us in, we need all the training we can get and considering we just spent a small fortune joining QMSC it would be foolish to miss a session at our new home club. For those who may be interested Usagi went for his first sail on Sunday, despite the light winds and overlength everything we did get twinning occasionally - enough to get the official first grin.
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Thats good to hear once i get an idea of numbers i will put a method of payment up on the website, so people can pay before the training dates. It will probably be by the usual methods. I hope to have this done in a week or so
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Fundamentally in.
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What I should add is that we live a few minutes from QMSC in Sunbury, 2 single beds and floor space available. If you fancy your own room and en-suite there is a new travelodge in Sunbury near our house. There are a couple of half decent riverside pubs and a good curry house for Saturday night a few minutes walk away.
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I'll be there at the blunt end of Dan's boat.
Andy, that's an incredibley nice offer. I would like somewhere to sleep please, and also count me in for a curry and beers by the river.
As I'm not sailing Strawb, she would probably be available if anyone wanted to borrow her. Please PM me.
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Hi Andy,
Please can I book 6'x2' sleeping space in your fine Sunbury Cherub haven please. Save the beds for broken sailors ;D . Great plan re pubs & curry, I am on for all of that.
Glad to hear you have launched. Pics? Dont you be getting too much practice in tho!
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I will most certainly be there too. Can I provisionally book a bit of floor space but as my brother only lives in Chertsey I can stay there if it is going to get a bit crowded!
Well done on the launch. I agree with Pete, please try not to sail it too much! ;)
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As we live the longest 20 mile drive possible from QM could Slippy book a bit of grass in the garden, or some red dusty part of the garage? From memory it is possible that the Kirks will have a shorter drive from Bristol than us in Bethnal Green!
Congrats on the launch, just wait till you gat a good breeze on...
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I regret that sarah and I will not be able to make the training. Sarah has a byte event I think and I'm doing a Yacht race to france. It's one of our qualifiers for the Fastnet.
I have already appologised to P.B.
Slippy it's 1 hr 45mins from our house in Bristol to QMSC. I would expect you could do it from BGM in 1hr 20 mins but agree it's a much slower route.
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I aim to be there, but am not sure with who as crew...
If their is floor space available I/we would be very grateful :)
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I would come if anyone can tolerate a non-cherubist in their boat if they need a crew or something on any of the days. im not very experienced in cherubs having only sailed them this year at rutland but im keen to learn? ANY FREE BOATS???? ;D
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I am very sorry to report that Team Badgers Nadgers will sadly not be able to attend. I had a fight with a loft ladder a couple of weeks ago which resulted in me falling 8 feet in a tangled laddery mess and I have broken my toe. I tried to 'jog it off' for a couple of weeks but it was confirmed last night by the doctor and it's been advised that I be careful with it for a little while. I will post a photo of the bruised mess if people are interested!
Hope it goes well. Pete, please hold back the majority of your useful advice as I don't want people getting too much of a head start on our years training! ;)
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That doesnt sound too good Tim....
We defo wont be there - 1 not having a cherub, and 2 Stu and I are apparently on cat sitting duty that weekend lol.
Hope its a good one for eveyone!
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In!
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Sadly I'm going to have to drop out. My Cousin has decided to turn 21 that weekend!
Im not doing very well with family birthdays all seeming to clash with cherub dates!
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We're in, for the saturday only though I am afraid.....
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We're looking forward to it. Hopefully by then we will have spent a good bit of Saturday bimbling the rig, although if there was a part of the session dedicated to pulling each others strings it would be good. ;)
Peter, are you bringing your boat as well?
R
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Peter, are you bringing your boat as well?
No, I will be in rib. Offering encouragement, constructive critisism and chocolate as appropriate
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Is chocolate a treat insentive for those sailing well?!
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anyone need a crew???????:(
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The training event at Queen Mary SC is this coming weekend.
The roll call so far:
Antidote to Panel Games
Born Slippy
Usagi Yojimbo
Dan's Boat
The Bridle Banshee
Have I missed anyone? I need to confirm numbers to the club ASAP.
The Class Assosiation has agreed to subsidise the training, so the cost is £20 per boat for both days.
Boats also need to pay the club £20 for the privelage of using their facilities.
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I can't make it.
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Thanks for the input Ross. Helpfull.
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It was for people who thought I would turn up, seeing as I live in North London.
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With a perfect weather forecast and everything else being perfect we may be there.
To be honest an ideal situation would be someone 6' plus to launch our boat for us.
Lara took her laser out for the first time last week and that combined with a nice beach sounds great.
Unless Pete is planning advanced launching and recovery techniques, if thats the case we will be there.
In other words we haven't decided yet.
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At 6ft2 I'll happily help before we get wet, H&I have become experts at lauching off the trolley, fully rigged on a reach.
(or I leave H on the board in the middle of the reservoir and get a lift in to help :-) )
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We have a cunning plan for launching/recovery at QMSC in the cherub which has worked a treat every time (although that's only 4). I'll share it with you on Saturday as I'm too lazy to type it
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OK. This much anticipated weekend is here and its all very exciting.
Forcast is near perfect - light side off medium on Saturday and medium on Sunday. Good chance of more wind. Mostly sunny.
I propose to use the great day we had at Draycote last year as a skeleton format;
-Briefing 10.30
-On shore quick look at setup & systems
-Shore drill demo with a featherweight
-LOTS of starts & short races; working on starting, tactical positioning, manouvres,
-It would be remiss not to set up some longer course speed work with all the new boats and new rigs; speed technique, set up, VMG grooves
Any special requests?
I will have video & camera to catch all the action for playback debrief. Can produce a DVD to capture the moment in Cherub history.
I aim to pitch up 09.30 and suggest we are 'rigged but not changed' in time for a 10.30 briefing. We will probably do 2 sessions on the water each day as it should be easy enough to come in (TBC).
Suggest everyone makes for the end of the bund dividing the lake to rig. There is a good area there to tip over and it gives the choice of which side to launch depending on wind.
Dave Ching - 100% invalid excuse, sorry. Perfect conditions forecast and your chance to show the new boats the way around - you owe it to the Beast! Launching is manageable, AndyP has his method, Roland's 6'2" and others to help and I can assist from rib. We can chose the easy (offshore wind) side to go off. Plus beer & cuzza at AndyP's Thamesside haunts, unmissable!
See you all tomorrow (and if anyone has a whistle can they bring it please!),
Peter
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It sounds excellent Pete, I am most jealous of all involved. Please take lots of pics and videos to make me extra jealous when I return to work on Tuesday.
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I am really looking forward to this!
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Shore demo with a feather weight. That has Peters written all over it. Jill though not me ;D
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Jill, Hayley, Lara and of course Eddie - A bunch of lightweights, each of whome could drink me under the carpet at the moment.
Born slippy is sitting at BGM and I am jest desperate to get wet. Will try as hard as to be there and rigged by 10.30.
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Wow! What a weekend. I am all-over broken.
Thanks to Pete and to QMSC for having us. I think everyone came away having learnt loads - I know we did.
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Am jealous but we had a good race to Le Harve in which we were the 5th boat round the Needles Fariway mark, leading our class on the water. We then had an 80 mile reach in 8-10 knot winds. Anoyingly the Asymetric rigged boats lapped up the conditions and our general purpose asymetric flown from the spinnaker pole was not a match for theirs. We still managed 18th in a 106 boat fleet so happy with the result.
I hope all Pete's training doesn't pay off too quickly but glad you had a good weekend.
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Yes, thanks to Pete for giving up his time to help us all, even though we only made the rather windless saturday we still talked loads in the car home about what we'd seen and learnt, so all good !
Oh, and eddie won his footie gane 2-1 so even better, and we spent today BH monday blasting around Brightlingsea in a F3-4, not particularly fast around a course but blooming fast in a line !
This time next year rodders.
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I am all-over broken.
The crew of Born Slippy are both a little sore today. We topped off the weekend with a gentle cruise on the Medway. The training weekrend was excellent. Pete nursed us through the basics of starting, reminded all to drive the nose in when pulling away and provided some excellent 1-1 coaching with video backup. Next year if we can arrange another simialr session we will be there.
Monday's Medway trip was less fun. The google shot below shows approximately the mother of all windward/leward courses, starting with the downhill section first. The google logo is approximately 1 mile long.
The grommet holding the uppers on at the bottom of the mast failed at the Red dot, a loud bang with kite full and only the 800's ahead of us. Hayley's lash-up, using the king post as a connection point, seemed to work so we continued down wind (mach 1-2). After overtaking the 29ers again there was another loud bang (Green dot) as both of the starboard spreaders snapped. Cause of failure was probably down to the uppers rotating through the lash up and friction at the spreader tip bending them off. Although they may have been mushed by the first failure. Can now definitely say my mast tip is very strong and very flexible.
After looking at the rig, we decided that after going all that way we'd be better to finish the race. So noddied down to the downwind mark under 2 sails. Sailed back with 1/2 the main twisting off and broke the jib cunno string again (we already knew the string I used was not strong enough from Sunday). Arrived back to the club last, but still in touch with the last vortex who got us due to the inability to bear-away for the finishing line without a jib!
Once again thanks to Peter, the modifed "Roland must be siting sideways" approach really improves things and our Gybes after coaching were truely slick - zero swims for us on Monday.
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Just been back up to QMSC to fix the cleats. The rest of the boat held together well despite both of us falling into every part of it on Sunday. We too learnt loads but we are still near the bottom of a long and steep learning curve. First race tomorrow evening so we'll see how that goes!