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Cherub Chat => Calendar Events => Topic started by: andy_peters on October 24, 2014, 12:15:06 AM
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Nationals 2015 will be at Mumbles YC in South Wales starting on Aug 22nd for 4 days. Shared with the Laser 4000's. I have booked sun and F3-4.
It is a great sailing venue, a club experienced in running championships and the doorstep to the Gower for non-sailing family members. With this much notice there is no excuse not to be there.
Further details to follow on this thread as planning develops.
Enter now at http://mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/cherub4000 (http://mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/cherub4000)
Saturday 22nd August:
Briefing 10 AM
First Race start at 12:30
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Great job Andy, we had a brilliant week in Mumbles this year with the Darts.
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My first ever nationals in any boat was there, good choice
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I'm at uni 3 miles down the road, just need to get a boat now ;D
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Great work Andy, Looking forward to this one.
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I was at Swansea Uni with Sam recently - looks like a perfect bay for Cherubs
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There's certainly plenty of space for blasting and if the first five weeks are anything to go by consistent good winds, just don't drink the water. 8)
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Why drink the water when we can take on the mumbles mile!
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I will definitely be up for Mumbles mile then wind Street 8)
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Please explaine the mumbles mile for the uneducated?
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Basically its a pub crawl of 9 pubs along a 2 mile stretch of the Mumbles, although it used to be 20+ pubs
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Right that's it.
Who wants to babysit my crew?
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I think spanish might be free as will be in Iceland if you want to use it, it might be for sale by that time
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I can fill Spanish if you need it filled (whether it's by me is another question...)
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There is a growing fleet of very able '97 crew/helms at chew who have the relevant experience (in Born Slippy) but not a boat.
If anyone already knows they can't make it or has a spare boat they fancy seeing boat cared through a nationals? We can source video of the various crews who would be very keen to talk to you.
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Being at uni in Swansea I will certainly be at the nationals, I hope to have my own boat by that time though.
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As you can see Spanish is for sale so can be filled by any keen sailors that have had experience if none at all of cherubs.
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When are the entry forms available ?
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Was at mumbles yacht club yesterday, looks like an awesome location for the nationals, great bar, the roof terrace will be great in the slightly warmer weather. Absolutely buzzing for this
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When are the entry forms available ?
Soon, we agreed to pick up organisation at the start of June so I will be back with more news shortly.
As to socials can I suggest:
1 night there will be a shared party with the 4000's at the club with a disco or band
1 night - the Mumbles mile - a Cherub pub crawl perhaps combined with some sort of 'games' with the L4000's (though that could get quite messy!)
1 night the AGM at the club followed by a curry
For the last night what do people prefer:
a) a short prizegiving ASAp after the final race so everyone can leave
b) an evening prizegiving combined with a meal and drinks
Given it is the Nationals the committee's preference is for option B but as we are democratic and not dictators (not yet anyway) I will go with what the majority who express an opinion want.
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I'd rather option b as we would stay that night anyway, it's always nice to have a good social after the event. With option A everyone scoots off.
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Option B sounds good, I'll probably be hanging around in Swansea anyway
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we have a house for the whole week so will be around for a few days.
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Just booked camping at Clynn Valley nearest to club cylcable down to club might have to push on way back very reasonable 01792403333
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Could we re-visit an old classic for the social pub crawly thing (this also includes the juniors)
"Charity Dress for a Tenner"
Rules are simple - you have a budget of £10 and can choose to wear a dress.
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We are booked into the Coast Guest house at the top of the slipway through to Wednesday.
Clive
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Just booked camping at Clynn Valley nearest to club cylcable down to club might have to push on way back very reasonable 01792403333
Is the hill steeper than that of Babbacombe? If not, no need for anyone to do any pushing. With or without trailers full of wet kit ;)
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Is the club "camper van" friendly?
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campsite booked
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There is a council car park just across the road from the club, and we have been able to stay there for events in the past (although that wasn't in August). But since the van will be our only vehicle, it's going to be there every day from early to late anyway.
I'm happy to investigate if that's not something the event organiser would rather do (to keep lines of communication clean)...
Jay
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The events secretary appears to be on a beach in sunny climes at the moment :-)
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I wish - back from there now, I have a reply from the club re camper vans which I'll post tomorrow. Short answer yes there is a way.
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and here it is...
There is a car park around the corner called bracelet bay that can be used (preferred option by the council), or on day one park and pay in the car park opposite the club, and then get up early and go get a free space on the road, that's all fine it's just getting there at the right time!
Erm, council rights for parking overnight in the car park by the club are woolly. People do it, and don't get pulled up for it. I think a rule has been set, although you need to ensure that you're not too close to each other
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Thanks Andy - I think Jamie and the Draycote crew have nailed a very nice shirt design as well
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Constructive criticism welcome.
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NoR and entry will be available shortly. The club are very experienced at running Championships so I'm anticipating a memorable event.
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So assuming that 2650 floats I'm going to attend the Nationals...
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Any sign of nor and entry form ?
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Constructive criticism welcome.
Looks good Jamie although I would prefer a small design on the front centre or left breast. Back as is. Get to it ;)
The club have just about finalised the NoR I reckon entry will open early next week. I've told them we will get 20+ boats so please don't let me down.
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Hi,
We now have a page setup on our website for the (dual) event. We'll start populating it very soon.
http://www.mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/cherub4000
As somebody mentioned, we ran the Dart 18 Euros last year and the website for that is still there with information that may be useful - certainly the photos give you a good feel for the area and the club.
http://mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/euros
Feel free to contact us privately via the email icon on the website (top right), publicly using the chat feature on the event page or facebook/twitter.
The event page updates will also be facebooked (is that a verb now?) and tweeted so Like our page or Follow us on twitter to get push notifications.
https://www.facebook.com/MumblesYachtClub
https://twitter.com/mumblesyc
We're using an event hashtag of #cherub4000 on facebook/twitter.
Look forward to seeing you all at Mumbles...
(http://www.mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/admin/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/6847232640_67a105cefb_z.jpg)
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How much,Where and when can we order
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Who is our measurer and when can we get sails measured before the nationals?
As the starts are early on Sat
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Hi Dave,
I believe that I am now tech officer and that any committee member can measure.
I am not keen on measuring sails at the event. We are not going to have much time ourselves If you are able to get them up to Southampton beforehand I will happily measure them.
What do you need doing?
Almost a year has passed since I was appointed and it will be my first measurement.
Clive
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I need one kite and a jib but the point of the jib will be to be small so that's just a tick box thing.
I'll contact you to see when would and how would work for you when I have more time.
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So we have 7 entries so far.
http://mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/results/2015/cherub.htm
For everyone still needing to enter please don't forget the cheaper rate doesn't last long. get your entries in.
http://mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/cherub4000
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Strangely Brown has entered.
Are there many boats being sailed under 97 rules? I can sail either but won't be very competitive for 05. So will sail her 97 if there are a few others.
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entered
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Mumbles promises to be fantastic in '97 mode - we sailed there last weekend and the locals promise more of "big rollers, strong winds and 3 knots of tide to take you upwind".
I know Mandy is coming. Born Slippy is planning on being there, not sure who is sailing her yet*. The more '97 fleet there, the better the event.
*would like to come to this event adn don't have a cherub, please PM and I'll happily loan her.
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Marmite entered
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I will post this on the news page when it works but for now please all note:
Saturday 22 August
Registration 9.00 – 10.30
Competitors Briefing – 10:00
3 Races – First Warning Signal not before 12.25
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come on all you 97 rules boats enter and come and have some fun
love Mandy
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I am sorry to say (officially) that Kate and I won't be coming this year (again!). Combination of a lack of holiday, a lack of sailing and an abundance of little toddling people has put sailing on hold for 2015.
We have discussed it, and all things being equal, we are planning to regain our 97 rules trophy in 2016 to prove that it wasn't a fluke. So make the most of it this year whoever wins it!
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For those of you who want to come to the nationals but can't make all the days a pro-rata rate per day is available. A pay as you sail of £40 per day, payable at the club as you register.
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Hi Andy,
I cannot see any mention in the SI of the classes 5 knot minimum wind speed for nationals races.
Are Mumbles aware of this?
Clive
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In fact make that £35 per day.
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Hi Andy
Any news on Clive's point below?
Cheers Paul
Hi Andy,
I cannot see any mention in the SI of the classes 5 knot minimum wind speed for nationals races.
Are Mumbles aware of this?
Clive
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I think it's implicitly handled by 1.1 - "and appropriate class rules."
(And from what I can gather the PRO has them).
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Looking at the latest weather forecast I don't think we will be worrying about a 5knt minimum. More like will our boats blow off the prom.
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The weather forecasts change on a hourly basis.
With anything between 0 and 45.
So basically something is going to happen.
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The weather forecasts change on a hourly basis.
With anything between 0 and 45.
So basically something is going to happen.
With my luck, it will probably hit a fan and cause an aweful mess to surrounding people and or objects.
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I am looking forward to seeing what speed a foiling Cherub can reach in 40kts!
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I guess the same as every other cherub 0knts
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Anyone know if the club will be open Friday to drop off/rig boats?
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Anyone know if the club will be open Friday to drop off/rig boats?
Doesn't matter if is is or isn't - the boats will be outside on the prom with the club boats - I expect there will be an obvious space cleared. We will be down early Friday evening and the club will for sure be open in the evening.
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To expand a bit on Andy's reply. The club does not have it's own compound. We use the council boat slots. When you arrive, turn left into the (council) Knab Rock car park and then drive onto the 'knuckle' - ahead a few metres then bear left - use the railings to tie your boat down if necessary.
See also: http://mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/?menu=visitor
The club itself will be open from about 5pm.
In the photo below the Knuckle is to the right of the slip, the club is just visible in blue on the opposite side of the road. Ther eis a pub called The Pilot just down the road towards Mumbles :)
http://mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/?menu=photos&gallery=2011_08_29_raft_race&photo=DSC08800c.jpg
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re sail measurement I have main and jib that requires measurement I have print out from isaf approved measurer if it helps
regards Andy
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I have a main and jib which haven't been measured, but I don't think I will be sailing with them as they are oversize for 97 rules
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Fuzzy ready and, i think, Riot Van. Hold on to your hats! Also bringing an Aero for any crew-less individuals. (shameless Advertising!)
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Can I have a mint one please
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Just a thought.
Would it be worth doing a group picture at some point.
People come and go and all that stuff.
Very old man thought I know
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To expand a bit on Andy's reply. The club does not have it's own compound. We use the council boat slots. When you arrive, turn left into the (council) Knab Rock car park and then drive onto the 'knuckle' - ahead a few metres then bear left - use the railings to tie your boat down if necessary.
See also: http://mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/?menu=visitor
The club itself will be open from about 5pm.
In the photo below the Knuckle is to the right of the slip, the club is just visible in blue on the opposite side of the road. Ther eis a pub called The Pilot just down the road towards Mumbles :)
http://mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/?menu=photos&gallery=2011_08_29_raft_race&photo=DSC08800c.jpg
You say club is only open from 5pm, is there anything stopping us from going for an afternoon sail?
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Hi Ed,
No, nothing at all :) If you don't like the look of the slip (it can be tricky in some winds) shown in the photo above, there is a friendlier slip the other end of the car park down by the cats - walk towards the light-house (watch your mast with the telegraph wires).
I'll be around form 5pm (but not in MYC) - feel free to call me if you or anybody else has any queries - Colin on 07504 104948 - today and throughout the event...
Look forward to seeing you all.
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We could do a group picture but so far there's only Eleanor rigged and ready to go😀
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I meant of the competitors when we are all together
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Brilliant, team marmite shall be over there half 3ish.
What's it like Simon?
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Seems a bit quiet on here post-Nationals. Hope everything went ok. Has everyone de-camped to TwitFace or something?
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It was amazing and lots of sailing.
I am sure everyone is still recovering.
hopefully some kind of report will come soon.
I'm to tired at the moment.
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Results found here:
http://mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/results/2015/cherub.htm#final
I will leave it to the hobbits who have the pleasure of writting the report to tell the tales of an epic mumbles nationals, but man it was good.
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My take on this years Nationals, Well, that was good. When is the next one...cause I am up for it!
I think the most important part of the race report should be who won the last race in 2 M waves and a tad windy. I have reoccurring images that are not 'fuzzy' and at 'bedtime' are still flashing through my brain!!!
The photos of the event are fantastic and show all the boats in action. Now a fab resource and archive for the class.
Well done to Mumbles Yacht Club.
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Congratulations to Andy and Jill.
Very worthy champions in the broad range of conditions.
Clive
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Results found here:
http://mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/results/2015/cherub.htm#final
I will leave it to the hobbits who have the pleasure of writting the report to tell the tales of an epic mumbles nationals, but man it was good.
If the report can be posted on here ASAP by the Ronin lads (I thought Robin and Steve were the hobbits - although I guess there were 4....) others can add to it over a day or so and then I will do a final edit and get on the sailing web-sites. be good if we could do that by early next week at the latest. Doesn't have to be a massive report - and please no race by race account. A day by day summary will do
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Next stop the Endeavour trophy good luck Andy and Jill
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Ill start with an apology, i'm really not very good at this writing thing so i hope this isn't offensively bad
As Saturday dawned 17 cherubs made the journey to Mumbles Yacht club for their National Championships, questions were in the air as several unknowns were added to the mix from previous years with new helm/crew combinations and a second attempt at bringing a foiling boat to the event, but which would prevail
After a millpond forced postponement in the morning Race one began in sunshine, but very little wind with two distinct groups emerging quite quickly and those who struggled to get off the line well were instantly punished hard, despite this all boats managed to have close racing but at the first mark a leading pack had emerged, Ronin had managed to pull off the first leg but had Andy and Gill on Usagi and Cool beans under its new ownership hot on their tail, with all three boats coming into the bottom gate at the same time on the first two laps they traded places several times and with the wind dropping further on the final lap a boat park appeared at the final windward mark with cherubs and 4000s alike getting stuck in what felt like doldrums, the winner was the first boat to emerge and it was Ronin that managed to clear the pack first with cool beans a close second but Simon and Dean on Eleanor managed to put their disagreements with light wind sailing to pass Usagi and take third. With no further wind in sight the race committee quickly decided that was enough and the fleet headed to for shore for the day
Day Two brought a little more breeze with a lack of the sunshine and as Usagi Set about a good day at the office, the rest of the fleet played snakes and ladders, up and down the leader board, with six boats all taking top three finishes and no other boat managing more than two podium places the racing was very close all day. with the scheduled three races completed the tired crews retired to the shore to warm up with a meal at the local pub after sailing in the rain all day
Day three Came and with the breeze building the start of race 5 most boats had twin wiring conditions for the first time of the event and as the start gun fired one thing became apparent quite quickly, once Clive and Alex got A&E foiling she was seriously quick and instantly took advantage of the extra wind to quickly make tracks on the rest of the fleet with Marmite continuing to find form she took second in their preferred conditions and usagi rounding out the top three. The Wind was shifting a lot through the day with race two coming and Team A&E were low riding for the first lap before finding their foils and boats being lifted to almost laying the windward mark making it difficult to find the best route around the course. More close racing was had and with the race committee making up for lost races all four races had different winners and as the day closed the results showed that the consistency of team usagi had all but wrapped up the event but the battle for second place was between three boats with only two points separating them. That being that the only honorable thing to do at this point in time was to go and get a curry then dress up in some very questionable outfits that bear resemblance to ones boat names, massive shout out to those that really pushed the boat out with the outfits, it made for an very entertaining evening.
The final day saw a lot of breeze, gladly the 40 knot forecast didn't happen so racing was possible and while the windy conditions scared off some 8 boats took of the line in the brisk conditions, sadly only 7 made the finish as /Jamie and Rosie in Shiny Beast managed to snap their rudder blade on the second downwind leg and with others swimming of their own accord it was Marmite that took line honors with Usagi in second and Ronin took third, with the overall results decided most boats headed ashore but one last race took place With Cheese Before Bedtime having a storming race in the building wind conditions to take the win from Fuzzy Logic. Subtle Knife managed to finish in third despite breaking the top section of its mast on the last leg, she managed to get through the line sailing on jib alone, at this point the wind was deemed excessive and all boats retreated to dry land.
So with the results completed and all the boats packed away it was time to head home, but there were prizes to be given out, After winning the series in truth be told a quite convincing manor Usagi took home the Ladies Teapot and the Simpson Trophy, Cool Beans won the Nick Mason for being most improved boat after climbing a long way up the leader board since their last appearance and the ashes were awarded to Shiny Beast for the total T-foil Devastation caused that day. The spanking paddle went to Eddie for his late night escapades involving traffic cones and The Davey was Awarded to Roland and Jay for some of their spectacular Swimming action from the week. The Rosebowl was awarded To Paul and Ed for their excellent performance to end up in second, the LOSSC Plaque went to Ronin for ending up in third and the Didgeridon't was awarded to A&E for the foils that while clearly worked didn't turn out to be a world beater this time round. Ade's Work rebuilding fuzzy logic was rewarded with the Pre De-Elegance trophy and The first 97 boat was awarded to Andy For his excellent sailing Eva Dexoff.
Once again The class would like to put in a massive thanks to Mumbles Yacht Club for running the event and the 4000 fleet for joining us and helping to make it possible, i believe i speak for everyone when i say it was a thoroughly enjoyable event and the people there were beyond helpful and happy to see us. I would also like to add in a massive thanks to both the people who helped organise the event and those who either lent or trailed boats around the country to help get as many boats as possible out on the water. The last Thanks id like to thank is to all those who don't normally sail Cherubs but came down to have a go anyway, it was great to see new faces and i hope you caught the bug.
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Thanks Alex, no apology required that is a pretty good report. I'll send it off to Y&Y etc tomorrow
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Well done that was a good report.
Thanks for glossing over my ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on more than one occasion.
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Looks like an awesome event and seems a little strange to me that 4000's are happy sharing a nationals since in the past the 2 fleets didn't get on that well ;)
It was also good to Fuzzy back out and doing well even better that she won the Pre De-Elegance trophy :) Thanks Ade for rescuing her doing such a great job.
I will also try and get to one of the blasting days sometime to see if I can remember how to sail cherubs.
Smilie
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Report is now up on Y&Y
http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/185304/Cherub-Nationals-at-Mumbles
Click thru the photos to see something truly disturbing :o
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Can I make a request that we all fill in the equipment hide thing on the y&y page just to take the wee wee
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Next stop the Endeavour trophy good luck Andy and Jill
You know I e-mailed the Endeavour organiser asking if the Cherub champion could be invited as the press release encouraged. They didn't even bother to reply. I've never liked the RCYC after the last Endeavour I did - shitty muddy creek - and I still don't >:(