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Cherub Chat => Tech Chat => Topic started by: ade white on April 06, 2014, 03:20:17 PM
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Fuzzy has a new home in Nottingham. Joe is now working on a makeover, and Fuzz will soon be on the water looking nice. I will post pictures soon to show the progress. Jobs are mostly filler at the moment to sort all the dings and some carbon strengthening to the dagger-slot and reinforcement pads on the for all the fittings. A new gantry needs building and a full paint job and re-fit.
Therefore, we are now contenders for the elusive Phoenix trophy watch out cellulite!
So what about Sweet Dreamzzz. Well, probably for sale.
Sweet Dreamzzz mast is still in 2 pieces... in the process of sorting and making decisions.
If anyone is interested in owning SDzzz let me know. The mast can be a full professional rebuild or left as it is. The cost of the rebuild is quite expensive and that will reflect the price when available. Shout up soon if you are interested as the mast is due to be repaired very soon, probably next week. SDzzz 97/05 and surface foiling mode - to be completed.
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More of Fuzzy logic turned up today.
-Good news the box trailer looks like (with some work) it is rescuable. It is a bit heavy though.
-The old ganty is also heading Norf ing flat pack form when Ade PM's me his address!
Can't wait to see the fuzzy thing and cellulite back in the fleet.
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Great news Ade you are bring Fuzzy back to her former glory :D if you need any help, advice or crew drop me a pm
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Joes makeover is coming on fine. (that means Ive done it all so far!). So lots been done, hull finished, well 1000 wet and dry and then a buff to the wetted area below the chine to do.
New swivel gantry made and fitted, all cockpit area non slipped, dagger case strengthened and now have the central case to fit (have already made one but waiting for the old one in the post to decide which to fit).
Mast lacquered and new boom sorted but not yet 'lacqued'.
Photos to post soon.
All done in international precote, toplac and interdeck nonslip.
Still to do. carbon tape rails, finish coat on foredeck, central cockpit control area, bonding gantry tubes, fair and finish transom and then fit out...
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Work in progress on the Gantry showing the fit into the transom.
The cross member tube swivels in the end brackets. The end blocks are mahogany.
I pva mould released the carbon tubes and resined the hole inserts to form a tolerance fit. The gantry is held in neutral position with shock-cord. Adjustment runs to center cleats.
Gantry 600 gms.
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Nothing in the post is a s nice as you've done :-)
Can't wait to see her on the water
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Coming together very nicely Ade :-)
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looking good :) and plenty of shiny new carbon bits.
It's going to be good to see her back on the water.
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Neeeeearly finished now... A few bits to do but heres forwards thinking for you. The Fuzzy re-launch. Venue - DRAYCOTE. Anyone up for a blast.? Say Sat. 10th May. Also a tune up for Weirwood. more photos to follow.
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cool I will stick the date in diary and try and make it along, it will be good to see her back in the water. Good work :)
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Can confirm Draycote will accept you on sat 10th of May.
If you are intested in this please say. If there are more than 6 boats they need more people on rescue, the plus side for you is the price goes down. If they get 8 boats then up without warning. You will get a bad name, they won't be as lenient towards the fleet. But worst off. They could refuse water use for the day.
So for your benefit, please say if you would be intested.
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Yep, fully intend to try Draycote on Sat. 10th May. Only a few bits left to do!!!
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EDIT: day sail few will need to be paid believe the price is £25.
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FUZZY still on for Sat.
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Can't make it this Saturday but have a good one Ade. Look forward to seeing Fuzzy at some travellers.
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I can join in by Skype if the club has wifi...can Roland sort out some way that an iPad can control a tiller?
Enjoy yourselves guys...I'm getting withdrawal symptoms.
If we ever need a venue for a Worlds...Miami Beach. Huge area to rig and reliable sea breezes.
I can recommend the Miami Beach Travellers Hostel. I pre-booked into an all-male dorm but realised as I bedded down after arriving from the UK in the wee small hours that either the local youths had interesting taste in underwear or there'd been an administrative error. The owners of the bikinis etc arrived back about 3am and (and this is not a lie) they were 4 Swedish hotties, blonde hair, blue eyes and skin the colour of Dairy Milk chocolate after several weeks at the Beach.
I had an enjoyable, if slightly strange couple of days...you don't get that in a hotel.
Oh, and there was a beach volleyball tournament going on.
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Sounds like the perfect venue for a worlds, can we pre book the hotties?
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Hotties not in short supply in Miami Beach :)
PS But I was a good boy
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Well I got people we can stay with so I vote cherub worlds to go ahead!!
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Sorry JP, (crash test dummy) Sat not looking good for Draycote and the rig is no-where near sorted for tempestuous conditions, (let alone me) so I will resort to sewing the kite sock, et al, instead of breaking loads of brand new kit!
Hopefully Wear Wood (near Miami) maybe the launch. I hope Paul has arranged them Swedish shore crew... if not... I not coming!
Hi Torchy, we even have green leaves on the trees back here, you dont know what you're missin 'limey boy'.
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update; 2 pictures of fuzzy
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WOW
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Great work Ade she's looking good.
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Quite stunned, terrific quality in amazing time. Thats the restoration prize sorted for 2014. Well done Ade and Joe.
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Great work on Fuzzy Ade, I'm never gonna catch you now...
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IIRC Fuzzy is fundamentally a very fast boat. It was designed as a development of Dave Roe's already extremely rapid Pasta Frenzy design. It was built by Smilie who was working for Ovingtons at the time (in fact I think Dave Ovington let him use a corner of the factory for a while), and then finished off in the workshop at Tynemouth SC. The original yellow and blue paint job was a bit iffy on account of the dulux paint that Smilie had got his hands on, but otherwise the hull was very fair. It was certainly very fast in the hands of Dave "Carbonology" Chisholm and Princey at the Largo nationals in 2006? until they broke something and had to sit out the last couple of days. I seem to recall Dave cheered himself up by staying up all night drinking with a wild crowd of Irish golfers at the Crusoe Inn.
Could be on to a winner there Ade.
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Ah Ha, that explains why the surface blistered after the first rub down when I wet it down and then left it out overnight in the rain!
Its just a 'quicky' cosmetic hand job makeover on the hull and all nonslip deck, we have no kick bars for semi trapezing yet and I guess a high center of gravity to overcome with a bit of practice. We also have the biggest heart shape in the fleet as the deck is a massive blue one! ;D
cant wait to get wet...
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More pics, its better than eurotrash!!!
Ref photos:
An unusual photo of Joe, as he is not on skateboard.
I told you it is the biggest heart in the fleet.
Just a bit of rake!!! Do you think 3 inch extensions will be long enough as the shrouds are too short and that is the best I could get it today!
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wow awesome work ade, looks as good as new :).
A bit of history is Fuzzy was started off a college as me end of year project (will scan and post photos when I get chance), then moved home with the shell, deck and bulkheads ready to be put in. I then got a job at Ov'ies were she was moved to pretty much as a complete boat just needing a few bit's adding, fairing and painting. Fuzzy was finally painted in Tynemouth SC boat shed with yes house hold paint which pretty common for Cherubs at the time. Used it because I was short on cash, International back then didn't do the colours I wouldn't (I'm really not a fan of their paints anyway) and wanted to get sailing. Plus I pretty much planned to give her a re-fair and re-paint during the winter.
Just in case anyone is interested the hull jig and deck jig are still in the barn back on my Mum's farm in Cambridgeshire.
Will try and make it down to one of the events sometime to see her sailing.
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Here's a photo of fuzzy probably in her second year sailing at Bass week. (http://www.bassenthwaite-sc.org.uk/bsc/album/b-cherub.jpg)
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What a beautiful boat .. great job guys
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Awesome job guys! Glad it went to someone with the skills, time and space to do it justice. Well done!
She's got all the right stuff to go properly quick.
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You have upped my competition, I better get training and polishing.
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Training!!!
Fuzzy now rigged but just like last weekend the weather gods are not playing with their Cherubists. Shame on them.
Now got the rig looking something like it should. See the pics from last nights play.
I think this is the first time the sails have been put on the mast.
The pole is borrowed from SDzzz and not quite long enough for Fuzzy.
Waiting the wind... sorry not coming to play at Weirwood as too much to sort.
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Looking excellent Ade and Joe.
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Blue blood in that Cherub's veins :)
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looking awesome can't wait to see some pics of her sailing 8)
Just in case you are interested I had her rigged with a 49er pole.
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Fuzzy's first trip ended in...read on
Went to Rutland today, weather beautiful. Perfect Cherub blasting. 15 knots ish. Had a few problems and back into the mending shop for the amateur to cock it up again.
The gantry exploded into 9 pieces! Exactly on all my joints. Although I drilled the tubes I only epoxied them in and then filleted round them. Big lesson learned. I think if I carbon towed and peel plied each joint then filleted it would still be in 1 piece! From this lesson I am going to beef up some of the other areas as well.
We tried a long rudderless sail back the shore made it some of the way but ended up being rescued after Joe got a full dagger-board in the face, as it kept springing up out the slot when no lateral pressure was on it! (another mod needed) Joe now thinks we are jinked at Rutland, but 3rd time lucky soon, ASAP! No hospital job but he was quite shaken up by it.
The safety guy was one of the crew from the open, excellent service and great guy.
Other than that a brill sail and we quite liked the boat as well. surprisingly a very stable platform. Rig is excellent. In the end Fuzzy should be a very good boat.
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This lesson has to learned again again: Gantries need to be really strong - and the forces aligned properly too.
Think in terms of the joint having about as much carbon on it as the tube from which the rest of the gantry is made. So if the tube is 1mm wall thickness, think about 5 layers of carbon at the join with them finishing at different points along the tube.
For Atum we used tow from some v heavy (?600 g/sqm) twill we were given. I think we used 3 completed layers, one one axis and the other two a bit off axis each way on each joint. This was to join 25mm tubes together. The joints were made to fit by using a jig to hold one tube and an off axis holesaw (on a drill). The hole saw simulated where the other tube was to go, so you ended up with a nice snug fit.
For Antidote Andy P made an incredibly light one which did work and has been widely copied. Have a look at Usagi's one. This has got to be easier to make and loads lighter than Atums one.
Good luck!
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The pole is borrowed from SDzzz and not quite long enough for Fuzzy.
Fuzzy had a brand new super long pole made by cookie after the 9er one broke in the big accident of 09...
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For reasons too dull to go into, I happen to have photo's of Antidote's, ah sorry Will said Atum; oh well have the photo anyway !
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our new gantry worked well and made no odd sounds in our test sail at hayling yesterday.
was built with tubes and 3d printed joints covered in carbon.