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Cherub Chat => Introduction to Cherubs => Topic started by: Torchy on January 24, 2012, 03:10:23 PM
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Hi guys,
As some of you know I'm planning (teenager willing) to be back sailing Cherubs after a long gap (it might be 30 years!)
Can I just highlight the importance for the class of all the photos and videos? It gets noticed. . . in fact I stayed in touch with Cherubs from about 2003 onwards via the website, the photos and latterly the videos. In the end it was the videos which convinced me I just had to get back in one of the little terrors.
Has anyone got an HD headcam yet, or a waterproof static? What did Santa buy you? The Aussies are outdoing us on the video front just lately:
hxxp: www. youtube. com/watch?v=1J4zqCXhCyo
hxxp: www. youtube. com/watch?v=ly8IX9UyqRQ
These are awesome but I think we can do better!. . . and be more original with the expletives
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Thaks Nigel, good feedback. One of our members put the call out recently for updated photos, I am as guilty as the next man at not having supplied them.
Maybe we could cam up a bit at chew, although thats hardly AUS in 30 degrees, but I am pretty confident we could out expletive the lager drinking *$£"!$!!s
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Paul has had some luck with his video camera - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otdb-I8bGDU and other vids by Dart597
We do need some more footage and hopefully Chew will be a good opportunity. Have to confess that headcam always felt very awkward to me, and if Roland wore it I just used to burst out laughing when I caught sight of him... Mast cam and pole cam can work really well, but it can be pot luck whether it ends up the right way round. As for expletives, there comes a point where it's best to keep your mouth shut, or you swallow too much water ;D
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My crew for this season has splashed out on a decent Cherub-proof Go-pro, and I have a headcam, but it isnt waterproof just yet (I expect it will be fine once I've built a fibreglass/perspex box for it ) Planning on making a Laser 2 video in the summer on the solent, as we have a beach hut sorted to stay in for a while at Calshot. Not sure who is coming to the nationals with me just yet, but if he can make it we will bring it along :-)
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Excellent guys. . . I do believe it really matters. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . being creative with language that is
Oh, and the *??*!! pics I suppose
HD cams seem to be getting smaller and are dive rated now (down to 60m I think) but £170 is a bit steep just now for me so I'm glad others already have them
Existing videos are fantastic in content but the improvement in cameras, internet streaming etc over the last 2 years has been massive.
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Hayley...vv good vids (somehow I'd missed them)
I typed in 'Cherub Dinghy' to Youtube when I was looking and your previous (very good) vid comes up later on...after the Aussie ones (shame!...friendly antipodean rivalry...the ***???!!s) plus a very good one of Suicide which is now 'old and grainy'.
I asked Sam what he would type into Youtube if he was looking and he reckoned 'fast sailing dinghy'
Maybe we should do an ace video and call it 'fast sailing fun Cherub dinghy most watched video on youtube'
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I like your thinking! How to get up the Google/youtube etc list may have to become a little project...
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On the videos of Ronin, Matt added the key words "Stuart" "Tinner". I wonder if it contributed to any hits?
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I have some mast cam footage of Eleanor, however have never worked out how to put it on YouTube. I will bring a copy on disc to the blast for someone clever. Will also bring the camera along and hopefully get some more footage.
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btw the 2 excellent vids on the website Pole cam and Nationals warm up day won't run properly on my netbook and even the big iMac struggles...web guru?
(I tried changing quality but it didn't really help, even running direct on Youtube)
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Some of the 29ers use a boom cam. A good angle can be achieved by mounting the camera further aft on a tiller extension taped to the boom.
We could experiment at Chew and fill you tube with lots of Cherub vids.
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Had a few hours free last week and have made two custom mounts for my Go Pro camera for Ronin.
1. Boom Cam - made from the old spinnaker chute roller, about 700mm long, can be mounted either out the back of the boom or forward to shoot to port/starboard or up, mounted with 4 x M5 bolts
2. Mast Cam - moulded around the mast, mount is offset to one side to allow the rig tension to pass, this will also double up as a compass mount. Should be able to use it on the pole and wings as well. Mounted with velcro straps
Will bring them both to the blast, happy to lend them out, boom cam does need 4 x 5mm holes drilled in the end of the boom to be really secure though.
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I have a non HD waterproof camera, which I used last year to produce this:
http://youtu.be/7kIsh22sQZ0
The difference in quality between the HD, and non HD cameras is obvious.
One benifit the Ausies have is sunshine, not something we get up here too often.
I would like to see more up to date photos on the website, we just need some wind, sun and a camera.
Phil
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There are lots of photos of the Inlands (which was very sunny) and the Bonfire Blast which have yet to make much of an appearance on the site. I can add some in if noone else wants to step up and R doesn't mind using his photos on the site. I will bring a camera and a big lens to Chew and hopefully get some good shots.
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All my images are copyright given to the class. If anyone has them use them :-)
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Would you consider placing them under Share alike or some other GPL?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Share-alike
This way there is nothing for the class to administer, you are protected (asking for acknowledgement), and it means no one may place restrictive rights on your work in the future.
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I think the comments about sunlight are spot on...it makes all the difference.
Sun, sea and sand...plus a 20 knot breeze...maybe I'll emigrate
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I just love Paul's carbon fibre mounts
Will they not attach using cable ties?
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Probably, but how much do the Go-pros cost? Personally I would try and make it bouyant in some way just in case the mount detaches from the boom. I think Paul's approach is to make sure it dosen't fall off in the first place.
I think Paul may have a little to much time on his hands if he is making camera mounts . :-)
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Yes a little too much time on my hands, Ronin had to go back to Weymouth for an unforeseen mod, off to P&B yhis Saturday, should be back for the blast at Chew all things being well
Used the Go Pro on the 14 previously, got some good results, we found that we never got round to fitting it before sailing as it was always a pain to tie-wrap, tape on, so the thinking it if it's quick and secure we will use it more often. The boom cam mount will have a safety line thought the middle to keep it attached to the boat in the event of breakage. Plus it should float when I've got round to sealing it
Boom cam already crash tested. Boom and mount blown over by the wind when proped up against the house, mount took the full force, all OK
Mast cam will have an interchangeable mount for a tacktic compass. That's next weekends job
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I think the cam needs a lanyard anyway...ties would be quick and easy??
Just another thought though. Some of the interest in the Aussie vids is 'human'. We can see and hear what they are doing...and yes I think the pitch poling crew was being a pain in the butt to the helm from the start...bossy little ??!!!***!! would have been overboard much sooner in any boat I sailed! I think that's why it got on Channel 7 News.
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The pole cam and other Atum videos was taken with my Panasonic FT 2 camera which is waterproof and takes HD video. It is a bit big and a bit narrow angled. Joint own a gopro HD2 now, first outing was a bit of a disaster. It was a dull day and the pole rotates a lot more on Antidote. Ended up with the kite halyard wrapping around it and pulling it off the mount, thankfully the lanyard held. Can’t wait to use it of a bright day it’s capable of awesome video see-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUEZCxBcM78&feature=pyv&feature=pyv&ad=8662373179&kw=%2BGoPro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUEZCxBcM78&feature=pyv&feature=pyv&ad=8662373179&kw=%2BGoPro)
I think it would be great to get a new Cherub video playing on the stand at the dinghy show.