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Title: Dinghy Show
Post by: simon_jones on January 15, 2012, 11:56:05 AM

what-     Dinghy Show
   
    Where-   Alexander Palace London

    When-    3rd and 4th March

Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: simon_jones on February 08, 2012, 05:14:21 PM
Phil not sure if this is the right place for this, but Dean and I would like to volunteer for the Saturday if help is required on the stand.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: andy_peters on February 08, 2012, 07:43:42 PM
 Me and Jill as well - Saturday  (later on  in the day)
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: phil_kirk on February 10, 2012, 12:55:39 PM
OK I will record that. 

We have 10 exhibitor wrist bands and 5 build up bands for the friday.

Who else can help and when?
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: BenR on February 10, 2012, 01:08:08 PM
I can help either day, if needed. If not, I'll see whoever is there on the day  :)
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Andrew Whapshott on February 10, 2012, 03:08:56 PM
I should be able to do anyday/time..
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: phil_kirk on February 22, 2012, 10:48:33 AM
Ok first stab at a show stand rota,

I have put names in where people have specified time preferences.  Where preferences have not been made I have just added names into spaces.  So shout if you want to be moved and shout if you can help and your name is not in the rota.

The intention is to have a committee meeting at lunch time on Saturday so at present I have put ben rushton in the 12 -2pm slot. I think a non committee member with a bit more time in the class would be helpful.

Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Stuberry on February 22, 2012, 10:54:52 AM
I will be around to fill some of the gaps on Sunday afternoon.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Will_Lee on February 22, 2012, 01:53:44 PM
We can do Sat. Say 10>3.30
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Hayley_Trim on February 22, 2012, 02:52:10 PM
I will be around generally all weekend. Here is a link to the pre-show report we have done for Y&Y for info.

http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/161672/Cherubs-at-the-Dinghy-Show
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: phil_kirk on February 26, 2012, 09:36:57 PM
Ok A slightly updated rota.

I have taken the liberty of putting the Lees on between 12:00 and 14:00.  I know Will is on the committee however having the big guns on at the most popular time will be of great benefit to the class. 

We have saturday sorted.

We are nearly there with Sunday but it looks like some of us who are there all day will end up doing an extra shift.

Many thanks to those who have offered their services.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: phil_kirk on February 26, 2012, 09:37:48 PM
and now with the attachment
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Andrew Whapshott on February 26, 2012, 10:10:27 PM
I can probably fill the gap on sunday.    .....Is anyone coming up the M3 that wouldn't mind a 10min detour en route?  (I really need to get driving!!)

 
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: john_hamilton on February 27, 2012, 11:52:04 AM
i can also fill gap on sunday with stu
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Stuberry on February 27, 2012, 01:24:37 PM
Apols for messing this around... Due to Saturdays committee meeting we're going to sail on the Sunday instead. So I can cover the stand at lunch time during the committee meeting.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: andy_peters on February 27, 2012, 06:43:34 PM
OK I will record that. 

We have 10 exhibitor wrist bands and 5 build up bands for the friday.

and how go we get our grubby hands on one of those? 

If anyone wants to stay at ours Friday/Sat night you are welcome but we are quite a distance from Ally Pally.

On unconnected but great news it looks like the majority of the bund at QMSC may finally be consigned to the dredger bucket.  They have cleared it of all vegitation and built up a small wave wall on the edge of the lake with the longest fetch, so looking more serious about this than ever before.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: john_hamilton on February 28, 2012, 10:58:08 AM
Hooray!

and dont worry stu i'll take your place
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: phil_kirk on February 28, 2012, 12:02:23 PM
I will have the wrist bands.  Please give me a call when you arrive and i'll come and find you.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Stuberry on February 28, 2012, 12:19:06 PM
How will the wrist bands be distributed fairly?
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: MK on February 28, 2012, 12:37:23 PM
I can be around for fri setup depending on what time people plan to be there and then sometime sat
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: phil_kirk on February 29, 2012, 03:30:58 PM
Maff,

Your help would be very usefull but is not essential if something else crops up.  I hope to arrive around lunch time subject to when Paul intends to drop the boat and boat stand off which could be earlier.  Either way I hope to be there when paul arrives.  I will have the back boards, TV stand and some stuff for Hayley)

Simon is bringing his mast and sails at around 3pm.  Paul hopes to arrive back around this time to rig or complete rigging of the boat.

Hayley should arrive by 5:30pm with the new posters and info sheets.

Ben Rushton planned to arrive around 7pm with the I MAC for the video.  I suggest we load the video on to ben's i Mac and check that it plays correctly. 
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: phil_kirk on February 29, 2012, 03:49:00 PM
Ok final version of the rota.

I have added a third person on to some of Saturdays slots. Hayley is on the first slot to ensure that the collection for the BHF is being pushed correctly.  Since stu has offered to do a Saturday slot  This will allow Will to attend the committee meeting during the 12:00 - 14:00 shift.
Maff provides a committee presence alongside Andy and Jill in the 14:00 -16:00 shift.
The logic behind it is that the show is generally more busy on the Saturday and we have more offers for help on the saturday.

Thanks for those who have offered to help on Sunday.  Some of us are down for 2 shifts to ensure that the stand is manned.  Those on the last shift will be involved to some extend in the break down of the stand.  If people are at the show at the end and are able to help with the breakdown that would be most helpful.

Wrist bands will be available to those helping on the stand.  We may do some recycling so please do not leave with it.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Hayley_Trim on February 29, 2012, 04:07:22 PM
You make me sound like a school mistress! Oh well, in Sarah's absence...
Rota is fine with me. I'll be around on Friday from about 5pm for as long as required.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Graham Bridle on February 29, 2012, 05:18:36 PM
Eddie and I will be around Saturday, if we're needed.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Stuberry on February 29, 2012, 05:26:20 PM
You make me sound like a school mistress! Oh well, in Sarah's absence...

If the shoe fits...
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Hayley_Trim on February 29, 2012, 06:03:13 PM
They generally don't Stu - that's the problem with having size 2 and a half feet.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: phil_kirk on February 29, 2012, 06:04:25 PM
Thanks Graham,

From your silence, I wondered if you were coming.
Do we need to errect a dais on the stand for you?

Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Graham Bridle on February 29, 2012, 06:24:52 PM
No no no, a simple throne will suffice, with a bevvy of subservient schoolmistresses (are you still allowed to say that in 2012 ? )
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: john_hamilton on February 29, 2012, 06:36:41 PM
unfortunately me and my family will be there only sunday, unluckily for you mr presidente
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Hayley_Trim on February 29, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
No no no, a simple throne will suffice, with a bevvy of subservient schoolmistresses (are you still allowed to say that in 2012 ? )

Even if you are, and even if there is such a thing as a subservient schoolmistress, I think you might have to settle for a sticker and a lollipop like all the other boys and girls.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Phil Alderson on March 01, 2012, 08:06:17 AM
Have Fun everyone, Carol and I aren't able to make it down to the show this year, hopefully we will get south for the Nationals.



Phil
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Eggbert on March 01, 2012, 06:46:08 PM
I will be around most of the day Saturday so can fill any empty slots as and when
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: PiersHS on March 02, 2012, 10:21:59 AM
I'll be there working on the Spinlock stand mostly (B52) But will definately pop over and check out Paul's boat rigged- can't wait! I'm looking to have this video up on youtube by 5:00pm ish- hopefully in glorious HD...

Sorry it has taken so long but life has got in the way a bit, that's a levels for you...

Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: john_hamilton on March 02, 2012, 10:29:14 AM
hush piers, i havent slept since yesterday morning because of a levels
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Hayley_Trim on March 02, 2012, 02:52:01 PM
To Dinghy Show helpers

As you'll have gathered, there will be a bucket on the stand to collect for the British Heart Foundation. We are trying to collect the weight of a Cherub.

To give you a little incentive, if you make a note of the weight of the bucket at the start and finish of each session, I will give a "special prize" to the team who manage to increase the weight of the bucket the most during their slot (by legitimate means - ie coins only please!).
For those of you with shorter time slots, I will factor this into account in an accurate and scientific manner. But I expect extra effort anyway.

Don't ask me what the prize is, coz I'm not telling. But it will be better than a sticker and a lollipop. Honest.

H
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: daryl_wilkinson on March 02, 2012, 06:50:31 PM
I'll be there working on the Spinlock stand mostly (B52) But will definately pop over and check out Paul's boat rigged- can't wait! I'm looking to have this video up on youtube by 5:00pm ish- hopefully in glorious HD...

Sorry it has taken so long but life has got in the way a bit, that's a levels for you...



Working? Is that what you call it? I thought you were manning the 3.7 stand?  ;)
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: PiersHS on March 02, 2012, 08:56:00 PM
Well it isn't working- maybe i should have said promoting!!
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Eggbert on March 02, 2012, 09:31:46 PM
wonder what marmite looks like with a rig on can't waut till tomorrow
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: simon_jones on March 02, 2012, 09:36:02 PM
To answer that question she looks the Nuts, and is already attracting attention.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Eggbert on March 02, 2012, 09:52:39 PM
Take it its Elanors rig with your sexy new sails
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: roland_trim on March 03, 2012, 06:59:04 PM
End of day 1 - Hope you are all doing well. Looking forward to seeing Marmite and towing her back West. Have to admit looking even more forward to next weekend and handing Paul a pint to accompany his giant post sailing grin.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Eggbert on March 04, 2012, 07:56:05 PM
How did day 2 go plenty of interest i hope!
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Graham Bridle on March 05, 2012, 08:47:23 AM
(http://www.uk-cherub.org/newsletter/DS2012STAND500.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Graham Bridle on March 05, 2012, 08:55:55 AM
Another huge success at the Dinghy Show, the Cherub class does itself proud again.

I lost count of the compliments we recieved, not just for the astonishingly pretty boat, but the quality of the stand, the information and the enthusiasm of our sailors manning the stand - for a class of our resources we really stand out and people do notice, I believe this is slowly but surely translating into numbers on the water.

A huge thanks to Paul for finishing the boat, and Pauls wife and kids for living alone the past month - to everyone that manned the show especially those there both days and that helped with transport, fixtures, stand setup  and deconstruction, you know who you are and so do we. The long term future of the class is built on the kind of work you guys put in, so thanks again.

Someone had better have it in mind to be building another new boat for this time next year, the bar is set pretty high now !
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Hayley_Trim on March 05, 2012, 10:16:51 AM
Really good weekend for us. Well done everyone. Big thanks to all who helped in any way, particularly to those who stayed til the bitter end to help pack down. And especially to Phil for safely delivering Marmite (and me) home.
I'm putting in an order for for a nice force 3-4 this weekend and will be begging Paul to take me for a spin  :)
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: phil_kirk on March 05, 2012, 12:22:51 PM
Just when I was on the stand yesterday I spoke to Simon Hiscocks, Mr. composite craft, Mike Cooke and Will's freind from the model yachting association.  Dave Dubrovnic was around on Saturday.  All were interested to see what we were doing and where we are going in the future.

I was knackered when i got home but had a quick beer to celebrate our excellent stand this weekend and the efforts of all involved.
I believe we can pull off what we did because we all put in a bit of time and complimented each others skills.

Yes a special thanks to Ben, Andrew and Stu for staying to help with the breakdown and ensuring that Hayley and i had everything with us.


Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Torchy on March 05, 2012, 05:18:21 PM
Well done guys...sorry we couldn't be more help as we were on a tight schedule picking Loco Perro up from Tom and getting back before I turned into a pumpkin.

I spoke to a guy just as I was going who was a previous Cherub owner and was interested that the nationals were at Pwllheli as he has a cottage on Anglesey. I didn't have time to get his name but hope he gets 'hooked' and contacts. He said he's been watching the 'for sale' page but something about 'His wife might kill him...' or words to that effect  :)
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: john_hamilton on March 06, 2012, 12:35:38 PM
just to say, I dont know if anyone cares, but i was quite obviously (to anyone there) annoyed at the all up weight of the RS900. Nick peters has givven this breakdown: 55kg fitted out hull, wings are 9kg EACH, leaving 36kg for the rig and foils.

This is to "save costs", its all fibreglass too, with an ally boom

MADNESS
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: phil_kirk on March 06, 2012, 01:06:15 PM
They did quite well to get the hull down to 55kg with fittings but must have gone quite thick on the wing laminate to get to 9kg.  If they have used more than 5 layers of glass it would be as cheap to make the wings from a lighter and thinner layer or two of carbon around foam.

36kg for the rig is heavy The sails are a little bigger than a Cherubs but wont be much heavier because RS are known for their light weight sails.  Say 8kg
The boom is from a wayfarer so that could be 4kg. 
Even if the pole is twice the weight of a cherub pole it would be 2kg.
The mast is carbon but if the other figures are true it would surely be lighter made out of ally.

It may be made out of the same type of carbon that that they use for byte C2 masts which is mostly glass with aluminium sleave reinforcements.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: simon_jones on March 06, 2012, 02:23:44 PM
I was told that the wings were 15 kg each, so obviously there is some mis information somewhere.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: ross_burkin on March 07, 2012, 04:09:55 AM
I managed to pop in briefly on the Saturday. Marmite looked amazing, well done Paul. Well done to everyone involved, the stand looked great.

The 900 wings were also remarkably floppy on the underside.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Hayley_Trim on March 07, 2012, 07:35:36 AM
Don't forget that promise you made me Ross. Get Fuzzy to the nationals (and get your bird out for a sail). Was good to see you, would be even better to see you on the water.
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: john_hamilton on March 07, 2012, 09:37:17 AM
i was told 9kg by nick peters, so i think  it must be true. as phil said, the rig is stupidly heavy!
Title: Re: Dinghy Show
Post by: Will_Lee on March 07, 2012, 06:19:16 PM
i was told 9kg by nick peters, so i think  it must be true.

Noted.