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Title: This Way Up
Post by: Andrew Whapshott on December 04, 2011, 04:34:10 PM

Today has been a good day for 2661 "This Way Up.."  After a few seasons of not being used, she hit the water!     :D

Thanks to all who helped get her sailing again, especially Jason and the Trims. I sailed her with my sister, and both had a great time! (And it looks like I have a new crew!)

A bit of leak finding to do yet though...  :P

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: Will_Lee on December 04, 2011, 06:50:04 PM

That is a great tale! What a success - back sailing after many years in the wilderness.

Well done!

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: Graham Bridle on December 05, 2011, 07:06:45 AM

Excellent news, well done all involved.

I've no doubt we'll see TWU in Pwelli; but until then some photos please !

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: Tim Noyce on December 05, 2011, 08:56:51 AM

Nice one Andy, how was she? As Graham says... photos please!

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: Andrew Whapshott on December 05, 2011, 02:05:38 PM

I didn't have a camera on the day, but will take some photo's of the next sail.

She seems okay, few areas that need some work but nothing too serious.  A lick of paint wouldn't go amiss either.. 

Kite chute/sock to be added shortly  :)   

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: jasonlemasurier on December 12, 2011, 09:28:47 PM

Quote from: Andrew Whapshott link=topic=1201. msg11776#msg11776 date=1323016450

Today has been a good day for 2661 "This Way Up. . "  After a few seasons of not being used, she hit the water!     :D

Thanks to all who helped get her sailing again, especially Jason and the Trims.  I sailed her with my sister, and both had a great time! (And it looks like I have a new crew!)

A bit of leak finding to do yet though. . .   :P

good to hear, this is the first time i have logged on to the forum since i heard this news, well done andrew, have fun

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: Andrew Whapshott on January 16, 2012, 07:17:06 PM

Acquired some Aluminium to build a new stock today, and have everything sorted to build a Spinnaker chute (Converting from bag-launch)   

If anyone has a lower going spare it would be really handy (Swage T-terminal)   I've got two but running a 91' Jib on a 97' Mast, so having to use one to attach the Jib to the mast in order to make up for the shorter luff and give me something to attach the forestay too.

 Been using dyneema lowers up till now but its cheap stuff and isn't really up to the job...

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: jasonlemasurier on January 25, 2012, 08:36:15 PM

hi andrew i hope the new rudder is working out well for the up coming season and that your a-level studies are going well. boatwise i am focused on getting my gp14 ready for the summer and looking forward to a day at the olympics in weymouth in august. cheers jason

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: Andrew Whapshott on January 25, 2012, 10:11:06 PM

Hi Jason, Haven't had time to refit the rudder yet, but I've finished exams now so I can press on with it.  Just removed the Spinnaker pole to clear-coat it so that it has the shiny carbon look again..   Taking the rig off and have borrowed some space in a lean-to to get the jobs done on her in the dry.  Even got some ^This Way Up^ stickers to put on when finished!
 

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: Andrew Whapshott on March 02, 2012, 05:15:36 PM

Stripped of fittings ready for sandng and a lick of paint, new chute and a few other bits...   

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: roland_trim on March 03, 2012, 07:00:35 PM

Good luck, remember the aim is to end up with a boat that is lighter than you started with :-) So plenty of sanding to be done....

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: Andrew Whapshott on March 05, 2012, 06:22:12 PM

..Might have to cut down the sanding; Just discovered her decks are Kevlar/aramid.   

 Luckily I have been only scraping, but have still got a small area of teddy-bear fur...  Any ideas on the best way to deal with this? Just wet it out again and paint over... ?   

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: phil_kirk on March 06, 2012, 12:54:31 PM

Either wet it out and apply pressure to squish the fibres down or ad a layer of glass over the top and squish that down.

Don't sand kevlar!

You did the right thing by stopping and asking.

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: Will_Lee on March 06, 2012, 02:15:41 PM

If you wet out a bit of peel ply and put it down you can push the fibres down while letting the resin come up through the peelply. Then minimum sanding to just rough the surface enough to get some bog on there.

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: Andrew Whapshott on March 06, 2012, 02:46:29 PM

Thanks Phil / Will.  There is a thin layer of cloth above the Kevlar, I think it may be peel ply, is this a normal thing to find left on Kevlar for future repainting..?

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: phil_kirk on March 06, 2012, 10:13:44 PM

Peal ply isn't suposed to be left on. It incorporates a release agent which may reduce the ability of the paint or other things to stick. if it is clear or opaque it is more likely to be a thin layer of glass used to cover the kevlar when the boat was built or added subsequently if someone else sanded into the kevlar by mistake.
A good way to apply pressure to small but not flat areas without using a vac pump is as follows.

over your laminate apply peal ply as usual.
on this add a layer of polythene or plastic bag.
on this add something squashy. several layers of breather, a sponge a folded towel, or something semi inflated.
on this add a flat board and tape, weight or strap down. For very uneven items ignore the replace the flat board with more plastic.  The squashy material can then be reused.

This spreads the strapping and weighing down force evenly over the area being laminated.

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: Will_Lee on March 07, 2012, 06:17:56 PM

I should have said, once you have peeled the peelply off then there is a slightly rough surface with the fibres pushed down.

Strawberry has some glass  on the inside which had stripes on it like peelply. I am assured this stuff is glass not peeply, and I guess TWU may have the same.

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: Andrew Whapshott on March 07, 2012, 09:06:30 PM

Thanks, Luckily the areas affected are nice and flat. I'll assume it's glass, and that the builder was not a fool..  Anyway I'll press on carefully and repair the fluffy bits when finished..

I'm guessing the (lower/crew)deck is the same, but I know the outer hull layer is glass...  Can't wait to finish her, aiming for the Sheppy blast (No Promises though!)

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: JimC on March 12, 2012, 03:38:37 PM

Its not unusual to have a thin layer of glass over kevlar to give you some room for error sanding before the fuzz starts. But Wiz Deas tells the story of working on a foam multihull back in the 80s. *As I recall* the tale he had to do a whole lot of interior mods and to his amazement and delight found all the surfaces covered in peel ply. Ripped it off and had a perfect new surface to glue on the new stuff: saved him hours of work.

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: Andrew Whapshott on March 16, 2012, 07:59:03 PM

Ah, I wish it was that simple!

I've unearthed some interesting repairs that have now been reinforced/corrected...  (Any reason that a sponge cloth would be included in the lay-up?  ::) )

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: john_hamilton on March 17, 2012, 01:16:48 PM

thats just brilliant :)

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: phil_kirk on March 18, 2012, 11:08:29 PM

That's very cheruby. Boats built from materials that are easy to hand.

Title: Re: This Way Up
Post by: Torchy on March 19, 2012, 04:49:07 PM

Phil I've got some used Brillo pads for you if you need them  ;D