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Cherub Chat => Calendar Events => Topic started by: Stuberry on November 15, 2011, 04:02:10 PM
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For those who aren't already stoked for the nationals:
Pwllheli Sailing Club Venue Guide (http://www.yachtsandyachting.co.uk/venue-guides/pwllheli-sailing-club-venue-guide/)
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Does the class have any dates in mind yet?
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It was announced at the AGM this year, they will be during the week 18-24 August.
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Will the nationals be the same format as this year, racing starting midweek, or is the first race on the 18th. Hopefully midweek start as we maybe doing Cowes Week (SB3) and don't want to drive through the Friday night to make the first race at the Cherub Nationals on Saturday.
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I believe they will start midweek as this year but Simon jones will be talking to Pwhelli and will be able to confirm this.
The format worked well this year as it allows some practice time at the venue before racing starts.
We have our accommodation booked for the week.
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I have spoken to Gareth Roberts at Phwelli and the Plan is similar to this year with aTuesday start, and Friday party/prize giving. More details to follow as we plan to meet up at the dinghy show to discuss specific requirements socials etc.
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Accomodation booked, and for those non believers out there Kerrie and the Children will be joining us this year ( Kerrie is also a qualified Nursery Nurse so all your chilcare worries are over)
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well i wont be coming s6orry, but someone could try bullying digby into going!
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That's a shame John, can we bully your mum into coming ? I want her on by beer racing team!
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she says she will try!
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Does Kerrie know you're offering her services Simon??
We have Phil's mum, dad and sister (with her 2) staying the week so Kirklet will be in safe hands.
Phil is already planning my fitness regime for after the birth so I'm ready for the Nationals!
Sarah
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Any accommodation tips ?
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I don't remember the name of it but there is a very good large campsite a short walk away along the beach. I'm hoping to attend but due to other comitments and it being a mid week nationals I won't be able to confirm until a few weeks before the event.
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We are in the haven holiday park just a short distance from the sailing club, it has the added bonus of loads of non sailing activities for the family.
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To be held at Pwllheli sailing club north Wales, 21st to 24th August.
More details on socials etc to follow
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Haven't booked anywhere yet. Have had a quick look and finding a flat/cottage close to the club is proving difficult.
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I've stayed in a place called the old school appartment. The site has two properties one good size and a one bed annex with bunk in the main room it's has plenty of outside terrace space. http://www.oldschoolapartment.co.uk/page0.html it's easily walkable to the sailing club
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Not too late to stay there again Danny, be great to get 3 banshees at one event ... never before seen !
Go on, Go on, Go on, Go on, Go on, Go on, Go on, Go on.
Dont even think about excuses to do with recessions, unwilling family members, work or the like ;D
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Yeah, c'mon Dan. Would be great to see you - it's been far too long.
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C'mon Dan it would be just like sailing at Banbury again with Geoff and Steve. We could even re-create the three man lift and Spoon fight.
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+1!
What a location for a blast in such a great vessel. I'll be there with family also. If you ask me nicely I might be able to provide a helm/crew for you.
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We will defo be there. No accom yet so if anyone has room for a very organised housemate (and me!) let me know.
I've heard the waves there can get quite big given the right conditions. Should be 'interesting.......'
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Interesting logistics for me to get This Way Up there, but fairly likely to be there, maybe with a crew. Probably camping...
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Interesting logistics for me to get This Way Up there, but fairly likely to be there, maybe with a crew. Probably camping...
If you can locate a double stacker we could tow TWU there and back for you - if as I think you keep the boat near Fleet?
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That would be handy! Thanks for the offer, I'll see if I can find one.. A friend had a decent 200 one hanging around, should fit.... Although, if he can crew I might just rope him in to drive and borrow his trailer.. ::)
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Excellent meeting with Pwllheli Sailing Club at the Dinghy Show, I think they are going to put on a fantastic event. Details will follow, but the highlights are :-
- Monday evening - commodores reception
- Tuesday evening - Free
- Wednesday evening - Baach BBQ and beach olympics
- Thursday evening - AGM
- Friday evening - 3 course dinner with prizegiving
The club will provide us with details of local attractions etc for families, and we're enquiring about the possibility of a (weather permitting) spectator boat. The facilities are fantastic, the beach looks fantastic and the waters are fantastic; get your holidays booked now !
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I can confirm that it is fantastic. We've got our accommodation booked, holiday booked and am ticking off the days till we head up there.
Do we know what time the races will be? I want to do a dawn raid on the snowdon summit before racing one day!
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Tim as racing starts on Tuesday you could take a gentle stroll on Monday.
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We will be having further discussions with the club to determine details such as this. I would anticipate that the start times will be in the NOR which should be available in a month.
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Tim as racing starts on Tuesday you could take a gentle stroll on Monday.
Where's the fun in that?! :-p
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kokopelli is 99% sure coming to nationals. will try to do thornbury first dont think we can make any other events just yet. Joe and I thinking of camping at the nationals. Any recommendations as to where are most 'cherubies' staying? cheers ade.
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Hi Ade, We are interested in this too. I know the Llyn quite well but don't know any sites at Pwllheli. I believe the Trim's are already booked in somewhere and detail is in a thread somewhere on this site...
Sam may be doing 3 peaks the w/e of the Thornbury open but I will go anyway (either cadge a ride or beg someone to crew for me) and we are planning to be at the Weston Open as part of our summer hoilday in Swanage...no, really it's nicer than it sounds.
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It was Simon Jones, not the Trims. He posted this:
We are in the haven holiday park just a short distance from the sailing club, it has the added bonus of loads of non sailing activities for the family.
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My crew and I are planning to camp, on the nearest unexposed patch of grass to the boat. (Less effort in the morning..)
I am going to sleep in the boat one event to see if its as comfy as my laser 2... :D
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they aint!
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I will email Gareth and ask where there nearest place to camp is.
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Team Lee & Team Barnes are booked into a house on the beach somewhere.
Holiday property seems to be getting booked up fast. We used a website called 'Shaws'.
;D ;D ;D ;D
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We have a nice little cottage which is attached to a health spa... post racing sauna and hot tub?!
They did have a few other properties on site also for larger groups so if people are still looking I can find a link.
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I'm still looking, but seeing as I have no idea how many of team atum are able to attend, I am finding it hard to book anything.
Probably looking to camp but if there is a reasonable cottage then that would be pretty good. I have had a look but there isn't much within stumbling distance of the sailing club!
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Hopefully I will be there in Cheese, and will be in a tent somewhere close by... is there camping at the club?
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This seems to be the closest:
http://www.abererch-sands.co.uk/where.html
and:
http://www.haven.com/ (look up Hafan y Mor)
I phoned Gimblet Rock (right next to harbour) but they don't do tents or touring vans
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Seems to be some nearby grass on google maps..
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When we spoke to phwelli at the dinghy show they do not have any land where people can camp . They do allow campervans though.
I think you need to book a camp site if you have a tent.
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I've stayed at aberech sands more times than I can remember, its always been great and the camping field is huge
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This is interesting:
http://www.caernarfonherald.co.uk/caernarfon-county-news/local-caernarfon-news/2009/08/20/pwllheli-sailing-club-is-not-a-camping-site-88817-24486632/
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Thanks for all the info we have booked Abererch camping site. We have also found another cherub and are trying to buy it. not sure what it is yet but its at least a 95 rules boat. we will keep you all posted fingers crossed. Ade. :)
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You're really bitten by the bug Ade....
Are you keeping Kokopelli?
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Yes we are keeping Kokopelli anyway, she now has a new gantry and a brand new kite in black from Topper, a Xenon kite. 16. 3m. May go to rutland tomoro to try out. Dont think we can do deans birthday bash or any May/June events as I am in for a prostectomy on 23 April. Nationals all sorted for Kokopelli and could be 1 more. will need a double trailer!
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Glad UR keeping Kokopelli...superb boat
Hope op goes well...no reason why it shouldn't
I did see someone mention a double trailer with one of the for sale boats...might be worth asking - You might be able to organise a crafty swap +/- a consideration (might have been Shiny Beast or I might have imagined it - will look)
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My crew is driving myself and 'This way up' on a 200 doublestacker from the Datchet area, and we would happily carry another boat, providing its trolley fits (We haven't tried TWU on the road trailer yet, but shouldn't be a problem)
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Would anyone be up for sharing a cottage in Cricceth? Not too far from Abersoch by car- 15mins I think.
Anyway, I'm staying there atm for the youths and it has worked out around £110 per person (there are 3 of us, so if anymore want to stay the price goes down.)
It is really very good, though one person staying will have to have a car, as I doubt I will have passed my test by then..
Piers
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Keep us posted on the mystery boat Ade - always good to find long lost boats and bring them back into the fold. Where did you find her? And best of luck with the op.
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Our nationals accommodation is all sorted. Subject to Googlemaps telling the truth, we should be in easy walking distance of the club. So all being well when someone loses the car keys we won't need to find them until it's time to go home ;) (Maff and Stu know where I'm coming from)
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Would anyone be up for sharing a cottage in Cricceth?
as I doubt I will have passed my test by then..
Piers
Hi Piers, Sam and I would be up for a place in the cottage. Criccieth is very close and I passed my test in 1982.
Sam (15) would benefit from less wrinkly companions :O)
We are driving up from Birmingham on the Monday...hopefully in time for a practice,
Nigel
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Ok, I will see what I can do. If you PM me an email/phone number and I'll keep in touch.
There are 1/2 more spaces if anybody else is in need- would be a good way to get the cost down.
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Finally got round to booking camping at Aberach Sands.
See you all there (if I learn how to stop breaking Atum in time)
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My crew is driving myself and 'This way up' on a 200 doublestacker from the Datchet area, and we would happily carry another boat, providing its trolley fits (We haven't tried TWU on the road trailer yet, but shouldn't be a problem)
Where abouts in Datchet? I'll probably be heading over from Datchet too with either a cherub or the Rib depending on availability of boats and people!
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Hi all, ade here. i have a new boat 8). It is 'Sweet Dreams' hopefully I only have a cosmetic job to do before the Nats. So i should be bringing 2 boats, Koko and SD. It looks like the same as the existing 2663 pics shown. Hopefully i am trying to convince my bro and neice to come and sail the spare boat. If not i will let you all know. I think i have a double trailer sorted.
Still no sailing for me yet! nearly 6 weeks in from major operation but hopefully back on the water soon, therefore, I will not make Thornbury :(.
If anyone has info on build of Sweet Dreams or any other info appreciated?. i think it is up to 2005 rules?
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Hi Ade,
The lineage of Sweet Dreams goes back to the Flying Trifle 2652. The Trifle was professionally designed by yacht designer Christian Stimpson for Martin Harrison and the late John Lobb. John and Martin built and sailed her for a couple of years before selling her on. John then got into the M-Xray class while Martin took up Moths. About 1995 Martin wanted a new Cherub to sail with his girlfriend, so he designed nd built Sweet Dreams his Death by Chocolate design. It is to some extent a development of the Trifle design, but is a bit different particularly around the back end. There is a slight V in the bottom of the hull even at the transom. I recall it was built to a high standard, I think in foam and glass with local carbon/kevlar reinforcement. It was certainly as quick as other boats of that era. I believe it has been modified / upgraded in recent years and is now sporting an '05 rig, but others on here can probably give you more accurate info about her recent history.
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Found this in "Cherub News" February 1995:
Death by Chocolate
It's on the way, the second boat from the Harrison / Stimpson team. After the long awaited arrival of the Pasta Frenzy, I looked at the mainstream designs, Dog, Platypus, Bistro and the Pasta and after talking to their owners, I decided to go a slightly different way.
The Flying Trifle with it's flat transom and low rocker did what it was designed for - to plane flat on the water. However the only problem with that was when you reached a certain speed waves became a problem and sometimes the transom went airborne. The Turbo version, i.e. with the chines chopped off at the back, did help but where John and I were a little on the heavy side and with a middle wind strength speed was down a little. No problem on a windy day though, the speed was back.
The Death by Chocolate is very different. She has a more even rocker line with a finer bow than the Italian Bistro. After sailing the Bistro and Pasta designs I liked the bow shape and have taken it one stage further. Top sides are straight then twisting at the transom like the Trifle. The stern instead of rounded is more of a V. The idea is to try and help lift the bow and help reduce weather and lee helm. DBC has more rocker than the Trifle but less than the Pasta, but has a slightly narrower transom than the Pasta.
Construction will be similar to the Trifle. Carbon, Kevlar/Glass/Epoxy foam. Inside of the boat will be similar to the Trifle. Hull colour may be brighter than the old boat but I'm open to people's ideas! The mast will be made of that black stuff. Launch time as soon as money will allow.
Martin Harrison
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Never sailed Sweet Dreams, but Ah, the Trifle (stares off wistfully into the middle distance).... I could get really sentimental.
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I used to own both a trifle, (2654) and sweet dreams (2663).
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We are booked into http://seafrontflats.co.uk/index.php (http://seafrontflats.co.uk/index.php) Prices seem reasonable and it is just the other side of the harbour.
I think that they still have availability, The current weather may have something to do with that.
Helen and Georgia are trying to find somewhere cheap in the Med for the week.
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Helen and Georgia are trying to find somewhere cheap in the Med for the week.
I have a harbour key for Victory Moorings if they want a prime space on the Med(way).
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Seeing as my thread was deleted... unsure why.... I'll post it here.
I won't be able to make it in Cheese, looking to crew or possibly loan a boat if anyone is up for that. Not really fussed if it means I can get to the event!
Cheers
PHS
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I think you are mistaken, your post is still there in the "Introduction to Cherubs" section.
As for finding a boat for the Nats there are several options, I've posted in your original thread.
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Ah ok no worries, just me being slow then and posting in the wrong part!
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I seem to be having trouble paying for Nationals entry with Google Wallet which the sailing club website directs you to do...
...however Loco, Evo and Ronin are entered...that's first second and third guys (not necessarily in that order)
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First time out for us since my op. At the weekend we launched Sweet Dreams and had an amazing sail. So it looks like we can basically 'cope' with it and are ready to get slaughtered and wet at Pwllheli (Puffwelly).
If anyone wants a boat for the Nats Kokopelli is available for any lonely Cherubist needing some older action? If someone does want to use her then arrangements need to be made ASAP. We are in Nottingham for pick up. etc. etc. (For info). My bro has a double trailer. He lives in Bassingstoke!
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I have been in contact with Andy Green of Green sea Photography, he will be in attendance at the nationals
to capture our moments of triumph and dispair (weather permitting), he will then put all photo's on a dvd for the grand sum of £15.00 per dvd. These will be on display and available on Friday night as a great souvineer of the week.
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By buying the DVD do we get user rights of the photos or will we just be able to view them. The DVD of Pembrokeshire nationals did not allow individual photos copied etc.
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Folks: Adem would like to come title the nationals in Monkey Magic! What he needs though is a kind person to drive monkey from datchet to Wales. Anyone going without a boat who cd help?
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Or a double stacker ? I'll be going past Datchet, but dont have a double-stacker ...
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re trailers,
try my brother he lives in Bassingstoke. has some kind of double trailer. I know Andrew Whapshott has now got sorted and he might have more info than me he is not using my bros trailer so it might be a possibility. hope that helps!
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How was Greece Ade?
PS anybody running a 'guess the number of entries at the Nationals' book? Not that I'm a betting man...
I'm going to stick my neck out at 29 (forever the optimist but don't have 'faith' for 30)
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Just seen there is now a poll in the members area regarding preferences for start times.
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Message from Paul Clements. He's new for this year and appears to be looking forward to the sailing next week as much as the rest of us:
"Saturday was last day of practice in Shiny B, and it was superb. Cleat angle improved. Tacking improved. Gybing improved. Liza improved. Boat speed improved after fiddling with the jib. Changing gear as conditions varied went well."
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Nice to hear it. I am officially properly excited about it now. Looking forward to sailing some nice big windward leeward courses to make a change from the interesting round the cans courses at the club.
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Likewise. :)
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Just looking forward to actually going out in Slippery don't think I have sine Chew and that means Feb god that's bad just hoping I can still squeeze into the wetsuit quitting smoking and having to have about 6 weeks off work has not helped my waistline one bit and am now back to my body building weight but without the muscle just large amounts of flab. Need to get much fitter since my Sister has talked me into a triathlon that she's just done for the second time next year!
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oops. We left at 6am this morning for the Nationals as I have a couple of days work in Warrington. This evening we realised the ladies and second place trophies are still safely in Sunbury. If anyone is passing the M25/M3 junction on their way to the Nationals could they do a short diversion to our house, pick up the front door key from our neighbour and collect the trophies? If so please PM me.
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Last time I did a Nationals at Pwllheli the police would wait at the end of the lane to the club in the evenings.
Several sailors got done for DD.
Clive
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looking forwards to seeing everyone at Pwllheli, just a quick and worthy note for those who haven't been before, the beach has a very shallow angle of attack so when the tide goes out it is a long walk to the water, I'd suggest everyone checks their trolley tyres are in order 8)
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At the Mirror Europeans in Troon in 1975(?) it was so far back we used to put the kites up with the boats on their trolleys to help blow us back up the beach...would this work with Cherubs?
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A fantastic week; Thanks to all for organising, giving me lifts, and helping me fix the boat! ;D
On Andy Green's behalf, the great shots that were taken are now up on the website, several there worth having!!! ;
http://greensea.zenfolio.com/p998604808 (http://greensea.zenfolio.com/p998604808)
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Full Y&Y report
http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/165591 (http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/165591)
My thanks to Hayley for such a readable report, and for getting agreement to use the photos.
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Also now up on the website!
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For which thanks to Ben!
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http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/165743/RS300-nationals-at-Pwllheli-day-3 (http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/165743/RS300-nationals-at-Pwllheli-day-3)
looks like others struggle in the waves too
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:) Yes, quite a few DNS DNF in the results
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For those of you who considered buying a photo or two from the nationals - or even sailed in a few events this year that were covered by FotoBoat - the link below may be of interest.
"A selection of up to 20 high resolution images put on a disc for you for just £40!"
http://www.fotoboat.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=141:the-championship-cd-offer&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=3 (http://www.fotoboat.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=141:the-championship-cd-offer&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=3)