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Title: E6 number 2
Post by: paul_croote on March 20, 2011, 08:15:29 PM
Finally underway
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Post by: john_hamilton on March 20, 2011, 09:29:07 PM
looking good
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Post by: phil_kirk on March 21, 2011, 12:46:06 PM
Very neat indeed. A weekend well spent.
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Post by: paul_croote on October 20, 2011, 10:43:04 PM
Another burst of progress, hoping to keep it going this time :)
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Post by: MK on October 20, 2011, 11:18:14 PM
Fantastic!
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Post by: Tim Noyce on October 21, 2011, 09:16:33 AM
These mouldings are awesome. I suspect that they have cut out so much of the build time and they look excellent. Very nice Paul  :)
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Post by: Will_Lee on October 21, 2011, 01:30:51 PM
Wow - what a machine!
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Post by: simon_jones on October 21, 2011, 03:23:50 PM
She's looking great Paul. looking forward to the sticky weekend.
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Post by: dean_ralph on October 29, 2011, 08:47:45 PM
That sail at the end of the nationals done the trick lol
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Post by: paul_croote on October 29, 2011, 11:05:25 PM
Now in one piece thanks to Rolands help
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Post by: phil_kirk on October 30, 2011, 09:21:24 AM
Excellent progress paul.

You are almost showing off with your collection of G clamps but very worth while to get clamping pressure even around the hull deck joint.

I look forward to seeing it  at the sticky weekend.

Any chance it could be ready by March?

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Post by: john_hamilton on October 30, 2011, 12:52:05 PM
thats the coolest way of putting a cherub together, like ever!!
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Post by: ross_burkin on November 02, 2011, 12:52:04 AM
You can never have too many clamps
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Post by: Graham Bridle on November 03, 2011, 09:58:44 AM
Nice work PC, no pressure, but we need a new boat to display at the Dinghy Show, gives you about 4 months, if you work all through Christmas and New Year you should manage it :)

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Post by: paul_croote on January 29, 2012, 09:36:20 PM
Progress a bit sporadic but now ready to start making it look pretty

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Post by: Graham Bridle on January 30, 2012, 10:09:04 AM
Looks fantastic PC - 4 working weekends till the Dinghy Show - can you give me a % likelihood of this boat being showable ?
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Post by: phil_kirk on January 30, 2012, 12:24:11 PM
It looks pretty already.

Nice work so far but there is a lot of work to do. 

Are you planning to cross deck the rig from Antidote or have you got that sorted by another means?

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Post by: paul_croote on January 30, 2012, 09:31:51 PM
Looks fantastic PC - 4 working weekends till the Dinghy Show - can you give me a % likelihood of this boat being showable ?

80%, being out of female moulds, not much fairing needed before spraying,

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Post by: paul_croote on January 30, 2012, 09:36:22 PM
It looks pretty already.

Nice work so far but there is a lot of work to do. 

Are you planning to cross deck the rig from Antidote or have you got that sorted by another means?



Yes but there is a major mismatch with the colour schemes so will be using other sails for the show
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Post by: simon_jones on January 31, 2012, 03:08:12 PM
If you paint her lime green and put anti's sails on you could call her tik tak- then get sponsorship from a certain compass manufacturer.
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Post by: phil_kirk on February 01, 2012, 12:40:43 PM
Or paint her orange and get sponsorship from a major mobile network.
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Post by: paul_croote on February 23, 2012, 08:59:14 PM
Painting done, name decided based on my first thought when I ripped of all the masking "Marmite".
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Post by: Eggbert on February 23, 2012, 09:02:49 PM
Very cool looks amazing i see you've gone for a fixed gantry with a pivoting stock any particular reason or just personal preference
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Post by: paul_croote on February 23, 2012, 09:17:14 PM
I really like my tiller extension based string T foil adjustment system but I it would be better without the additional load of trying to push a lifting T foil down when adjusting it at speed
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Post by: john_hamilton on February 23, 2012, 09:17:57 PM
very cool
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Post by: simon_jones on February 23, 2012, 09:23:18 PM
Good job Paul. Looks beautiful.
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Post by: phil_kirk on February 23, 2012, 10:03:19 PM
 Yes very nice.  Marmite is an apt name.
The painted/carbon look is really nice.  Now both E6's have the strip of carbon showing on the aft beams. could be a design trade mark.

Will look great on the show stand and will probably clash with everthing else we have.

Now if there is a chance to get it on the water then we are at least in the running for the best boat in show again.

I know that is an ask given the time left and I do not expect it to be achieved.
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Post by: paul_croote on February 23, 2012, 11:08:08 PM
Sorry, don't think there is much chance, getting wet or best boat.


Yes very nice.  Marmite is an apt name.
The painted/carbon look is really nice.  Now both E6's have the strip of carbon showing on the aft beams. could be a design trade mark.

Will look great on the show stand and will probably clash with everthing else we have.

Now if there is a chance to get it on the water then we are at least in the running for the best boat in show again.

I know that is an ask given the time left and I do not expect it to be achieved.
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Post by: Hayley_Trim on February 24, 2012, 08:26:36 AM
Paul, as you know, I think she looks storming. And I like marmite  ;D
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Post by: PiersHS on February 24, 2012, 01:12:31 PM
That boat should be in an art gallery... awesome 

Will it be ready in time for the show?
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Post by: Will_Lee on February 24, 2012, 01:50:06 PM
Marmite:

(http://www.vectorlogo.org/logo/gif/m/107477__marmite.gif)

Cool!
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Post by: Phil Alderson on February 24, 2012, 01:52:12 PM
Looking really good, I have just added a page for Marmite to the boats list, It just needs a bit more info
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Post by: Will_Lee on February 24, 2012, 01:52:45 PM
I thought, "Crazy Frog"

(http://www.pocketbikeplanet.com/customavatars/avatar47866_4.gif)
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Post by: frederic Thouvenin on February 24, 2012, 05:03:01 PM
nice job! i love it  ;D
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Post by: Will_Lee on February 24, 2012, 08:07:41 PM
Yes - what a machine!
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Post by: JimC on February 24, 2012, 10:11:18 PM
Umm, first Cherub all from female moulds is a bit of a claim... I wouldn't want to bet there weren't any in the 60s and 70s made out of chopped strand c***p. First foam sandwich, yes that probably is true, certainly in the UK.
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Post by: phil_kirk on February 24, 2012, 10:35:42 PM
The main reason for the claim of first Cherub from all female moulds was made on recent knowledge of 97's and 05 rules boats.  Paul's boat uses moulds to make the forward beam/bridge structure, spine and gantry and i believe aft beams as well as hull and deck.

Jim, you've picked the potential flaw in my claim that some of the earlier boats could make that claim with only a deck and hull moulding.
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Post by: Will_Lee on February 25, 2012, 03:28:52 PM
Quite a few bistros were made from a female HULL mould.

Icterus had the look of an all-female mould job - but that was 1970+.

Anyway - it is the first recent boat made from all female moulds - and v nice it looks too!
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Post by: mike_cooke on February 25, 2012, 06:17:32 PM
I'm afraid the Subtle knife was built from female moulds, including the bridge deck.  Unfortunately the bridge deck mould didn't last at all well and I don't think the replacement that I made that Hartleys for boat #2 used lasted very long either! It was a very silly shape to be trying to make. . .
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Post by: Tim Noyce on February 26, 2012, 09:04:32 AM
Indeed, the Badger was all female moulded, Hartley had their pattern maker build a new bridge deck mould for the build.

Other than those 2 it's defs the first recent one though ;-)
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Post by: neal_gibson on February 27, 2012, 10:05:27 PM
what ever happened to the cardinal sin mould?
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Post by: Will_Lee on February 28, 2012, 09:28:42 AM
Its with Matt Burrows who has Catananche. Do you want it?
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Post by: Hayley_Trim on March 10, 2012, 06:40:15 PM
There are no words. My face hurts from grinning so much.   Marmite's maiden voyage and Eleanor at Chew today - absolutely storming. Photos and video to follow.
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Post by: simon_jones on March 11, 2012, 10:25:47 AM
What a cracking sail yesterday, Paul she is an absolute credit to all your hard work.
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Post by: ed_higham on March 11, 2012, 11:06:32 AM
What a good half a days sailing! and what a machine!

(http://hxxp: i129. photobucket. com/albums/p203/ed_higham/Marmite%20outting/IMG_6643. jpg)
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Post by: Hayley_Trim on March 11, 2012, 02:50:03 PM
I'm still buzzing. Paul, you must be on top of the world. For a boat to work so well the first time it hits the water is more than impressive. I feel truly spoilt to have had a ride. We LOVE Marmite!
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Post by: john_hamilton on March 11, 2012, 03:15:04 PM
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p203/ed_higham/Marmite%20outting/IMG_6742.jpg

eleanor looks awesome in this
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Post by: john_hamilton on March 11, 2012, 07:02:45 PM
paul, who made your sails, the mainsail looks awesome!

elanors spinnaker is pimp!
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Post by: phil_kirk on March 11, 2012, 07:12:21 PM
They're DS sails.

i had a sail in Elenor which was fab.  The kite is quite flat when compared with the fyfe cut but unlike the old caws shape you can allow them to curl and then sheet back on.  In comparison to the E5 the ride is much smoother and the boat accelerates from displacment to planing modes smoothly without trying to chuck you offf the back end.  It felt planted and safe.  Because the ride is smooth it didn't feel like we were going so fast. I may be worth sticking a GPS on for the trials to show the true speed.
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Post by: roland_trim on March 11, 2012, 08:58:57 PM
DS are Dynamic Sails - www.dynamicsails.com (http://www.dynamicsails.com).

Dave has done a fantastic job in a very short turnaround for us.
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Post by: john_hamilton on March 11, 2012, 11:22:05 PM
why dont mine look like that, words are going to have to be had with mr dobijevenic
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Post by: Hayley_Trim on March 11, 2012, 11:28:09 PM
Ed and his mum took some great shots. Here is a small selection

https://picasaweb.google.com/107085305428508759907/MarmiteAndEleanorMarch102012


Or full album at
http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p203/ed_higham/Marmite%20outting/#!cpZZ1QQtppZZ24

Have to admit to quite liking Paul's choice on Marmite's page, and this one ...

Will see what I can do with the video...
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Post by: Torchy on March 12, 2012, 09:14:53 AM
Marmite is on my desktop currently...

Are these the boats off to Spain this week?

Keep us posted
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Post by: Phil Alderson on March 12, 2012, 03:43:00 PM
Marmite is looking really good Looking forward to seeing it in the Flesh at the Nationals.
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Post by: ed_higham on March 12, 2012, 06:15:05 PM
Cheers hayley i did try and post a link but it didnt seem to work and nor did the pic by the look of it. 

It is an amazing boat and yet again paul has gone all out and made it even better than i was expecting!
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Post by: neal_gibson on March 15, 2012, 12:52:07 PM
Its with Matt Burrows who has Catananche. Do you want it?

thinking about it has he built his boat yet?