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Title: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: simon_jones on January 25, 2011, 09:15:24 PM
                   Southern Travellers Event

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Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: simon_jones on July 12, 2011, 05:48:21 PM
Hopeing to build on a great weekend at Thornbury, Weston have sorted out individual prizes for us. Could all who are going please post here to give an idea of numbers.

So far I think it's
Riot Van
Eleanor
Yusagi
Ronin
Shiney
Exultant

Please feel free to add to this as Weston have supported the class for a number of years
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Graham Bridle on July 12, 2011, 10:55:05 PM
Yes come on guys, this is the last chance for racing before the nationals so it would be great to see more than NINE !! - so fix what needs fixing, get the weekend passes and put the tent in the boot. This is an open event so we'd like to look strong and show the class in the best possible light. PLEASE !

If I have to, I will buy all attending cherub sailors a pint, but we have to beat the magic NINE....
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Eggbert on July 13, 2011, 09:31:42 PM
Having just derigged Slippery and put her on the trailer ready to bring home  have realised that she needs a bit of work before the nationals so I'm not going to make Weston however it may be my weekend off so if I can convince the wife may put in an appearance  as cheerleader / beer faster we will have to see
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Stuberry on July 19, 2011, 03:48:45 PM
Crikey! £50 entry...

http://www.weston.org.uk/pdfs/2011/events/NOR%20Assymetric_Skiff.pdf (http://www.weston.org.uk/pdfs/2011/events/NOR%20Assymetric_Skiff.pdf)

I don't know what meal is included, but that still seems VERY expensive.
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: dave_ching on July 19, 2011, 03:59:14 PM
Thanks Stu I wouldn't have noticed until I go there.
Sorry that is the new bargin price Shiny (shamless plug) out.
Hope to see you at the nationals
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Graham Bridle on July 19, 2011, 04:18:28 PM
hmmm ...includes a non-refundable element for an evening meal on Saturday.

I guess theres two schools of thought here.

1 - Entry + a curry for two at any other event would easily top £50, if not £70 or greater - so you could see this as a bargain.

2 - Seems a bit cheeky to tie participants into the meal when they may not want it; I wonder if they have all eventualities covered, veggies and other awkwards etc - and now I think of it ...kids pricing ...

Its pretty obvious why the club do it, they want everyone in there buying beer and it makes ordering food quantites easier.

I am usually a supporter of staying with the club if they are laying on food as i believe its only polite to support them if they go to the effort. However for me it all changes when the choice is taken away.... bloody commies.

I suggest :-

1 - Whichever of my esteeemed officers organised it, talk/write to them explaining this is a) unusual and b) going to hit our attendance figures (see above at least)

2 - We roll call this event

3 - Work from there.....
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Graham Bridle on July 19, 2011, 04:25:22 PM
blimey ....The starting time of the first race will not be before 10:30 on Saturday ..... aggressive starting time too !
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Graham Bridle on July 19, 2011, 04:27:26 PM
DC, please dont totally dismiss it yet, we really really need some numbers - remember, I am buying everyone a pint so you're down to £46.50 already. We will be petitioning the club to rethink, so keep the weekend free please !
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: dave_ching on July 19, 2011, 09:06:13 PM
It is not a coment about anything just a fact that 50 is too much money for us.
Obviously with Elliot we are unlikely to be joining in with the meal anyway.
For us the events this year are more a social with some sailing.
Personally I think 35 is the most I would normally pay and then I agree we would then spend 30 to 40 on a curry but to be honest this still sounds like a better deal than 50 with some kind of buffet that never seems to have quite enough to go round.
We will be sailing at poole and still at home after that if the weather turns bad we are still welcoming lost soles a place to stay.
Weston is agreat club with good sailing and easy camping so please go if you can.
We are very happy to boost the numbers when we can hope you get a good turn out
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: simon_jones on July 19, 2011, 09:19:07 PM
While I am happy to speak to the club about this, I feel we are on a hidding to nothing. At best it's not a bad price if the meal is excellent. However if the meal is rubbish they are likely to put off future entries, from loads of classes. I will ask what the meal is and what options are available. I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that although we could back out of this event, we would almost certainly turn an excellent and very supportive club against the class, and make ourselves very unwelcome at future events.
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: simon_jones on July 19, 2011, 09:30:03 PM
One other thing to think about is the free camping. At Filey this was an additional £12.00 and parking £5.00. How much did the ferry cost last weekend. My point being is £25.00 per head really expensive for an open meeting with a meal and accommodation.
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Tom K on July 20, 2011, 09:01:06 AM
If the class are still going I will attend with Beans. Floor space available at my flat which is 3 miles from the club.
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Graham Bridle on July 20, 2011, 09:03:47 AM
I dont think theres any hint of the class not going; just that we'd like to register that the "unusual" arrangements may deplete the numbers, well already have as they dont suit everyone.
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: phil_kirk on July 20, 2011, 01:22:44 PM
A few points.

Weston is a great place to sail.
The grand Slam (3 day event) entry £35 (+£5 a head for a hog roast provided by an outside contractor) =£45.
If all the cooking and serving is done by voluenteers a meal like this will cost about £2-3 per head.

(At Frampton we used to cover our costs with a £11 entry for a 1 day open for 10 + boats including a 2 course lunch).
From experience at Easter, Weston have a small number of dedicated voulenteers who were doing all the planning organising and results, running the bar etc.
Normal catering at Weston is done by paid staff.
The likelyhood is that paying staff will double the per head cost of food.

I think that including the food in a £50 entry fee would be reasonable if Weston are paying staff to cook and serve the food.

It is a shame that some clubs leave all the organising and running of the club to a small few and depend more and more on paid staff for catering, secretarial work, sail instructing and in some cases rescue provision.
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Graham Bridle on July 20, 2011, 04:40:08 PM
Are you coming Phil ?
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: dave_ching on July 21, 2011, 07:02:58 PM
I hope nobody is changing there plans beause of us.
it just doesn't make sence for us. i agree talking to the club is a bad idea they are a great club.
They will have to do well to match thornbury's food
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: simon_jones on July 22, 2011, 02:53:56 PM
Just for an Idea is the list of entries,

Riot Van
EJ
Eleanor
Ronin
Usagi
Beans

Any other takers on this? Its the last chance before the Nationals.
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: roland_trim on July 22, 2011, 03:30:05 PM
Born Slippy is looking for a helm for this one? Any interest please PM me.
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: phil_kirk on July 22, 2011, 11:00:40 PM
Sorry we will not be comming.

Doing the ents next week and will be travelling back on Sat. Wont have the mast back for the cherub until the following weekend.

Good luck to those who sail at weston. have fun.

 
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: simon_jones on July 26, 2011, 05:09:43 PM
We are thinking of going to Weston on Friday evening because of the early start time. The club have confirmed camping available both nights.
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Stuberry on July 27, 2011, 11:01:46 AM
As we can not have a curry on Saturday night and most people are arriving Friday evening, I propose we go for a Curry on Friday night at Popadom Express in Southampton. All in say "I".
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Tom K on July 27, 2011, 11:24:47 AM
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Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: simon_jones on July 27, 2011, 04:14:33 PM
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Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Hayley_Trim on July 27, 2011, 05:01:57 PM
Am sure we will join you,  although  I must confess last time I was at Poppadom Express I thought it was pricey and I was quite disappointed with the food.   If people are not wedded to PE, there is another curry house on the same road where I should be able to get us all 2 for 1 on main courses and the menu looks ok although I have never been.  I would need to book in advance so let me know what you reckon.   hxxp: www. rasrajindia. co. uk/rasraj-indian-food-southampton
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Hayley_Trim on July 29, 2011, 11:44:16 AM
Booked in for 8 of us at 9pm.  Have accumulated enough cards to make sure mains are 2 for 1.  See you all then.
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Tom K on July 29, 2011, 02:15:50 PM
I can confirm that Rastaj is great food, probably the best of the three curry houses available. Mrs. Trim, are your 2-for-1 vouchers different from mine which arnt valid Friday or Saturday?
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Hayley_Trim on July 29, 2011, 02:36:31 PM
Not vouchers, but Gourmet cards.  Definitely work on Fridays, have spoken to restaurant and they know we have 4 cards and therefore 4x 2for 1 maincourse deals.  There have to be some perks from my work. . .
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: Hayley_Trim on August 01, 2011, 09:03:15 AM
Thanks for a really fun weekend guys.  Great company and superb bbq skills.  Shame about day 1's weather but day 2 definitely made up for it.  Simon and Dean, a tube of the magic sticky stuff is packaged up and on its way to you.
See you all in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: simon_jones on August 01, 2011, 09:52:02 AM
What a great days sailing yesterday. Perfect cherub weather well done to Andy and Jill who were fith overall and Graham and Eddie who were hot on their heels with a sixth. Note to self....drink less before sailing events, great evening on Saturday what I remember of it.
Title: Re: Weston Skiff Open 2011
Post by: roland_trim on August 02, 2011, 09:19:30 AM
Sunday was a hoot. Perfect sailing conditions.

The repaired T-foil makes a huge slurping noise at +15 knots and looses all steerage. Fine in a straight line, but made gybing absolutely impossible. Life on EJ got considerably better when we turned the T-foil into a spoiler and went wave jumping. By that point we were 10+ swims down and a bit battered, but the grin factor will keep me smiling till Lee....