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Cherub Chat => Calendar Events => Topic started by: PaulJ on November 21, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
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Event - Weston Sailing Club, Cherub Open Meeting - Travellers Series
Dates - Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th May 2013
Location - Abbey Hill, Netley Abbey, Southampton. SO31 5FB
Start time - 12:00 Saturday, 11:00 Sunday
Cost - to be advised
Racing - Committee boats starts, windward leeward courses, event shared with International 14s and International Canoes
Notice of race - not yet available
Sailing Instructions - not yet available
Accommodation - to be advised, but there should be camping in the field next to the club
Food and drink - club galley and bar open each day
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Sweet Dreamzzz intends to be there.
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Count us in for this.
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We will be there
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The grapvine forwarded the following:
Unofficial heads-up (Could be subject to change).. NOR is still being produced.
£30 Entry
Curry a £5
6 races
3 back to back a day
Committee Boat Start
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Loco is looking for a crew for this as Sam is in Vietnam...sadly Gill has refused
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I think the proximity to Southampton will provide a few options here Nigel...
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...and I'm (probably) happy to crew for a suitable helm looking for a ride
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I have been in contact with the 'main man'! The weather WILL be 'scorchio' and a nice (SDzzz) wind. Looking forwards to seeing you all there...sweet dreamzzz.
by the way, where are most people staying?
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I enjoyed that conversation Ade, scorchio and tentio.
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tentio tis then. might have a beerio as well.
if we think about travellin down friday night can we get in to the tentio bit, as it would be late. say 10.00ish?
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Got dates mixed up and Sam is in Vietnam in July, so he has asked Gill for time off from GCSE revision and we both plan to be at Weston
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NOR and Si's on the club website, entry £30.00 optional £5.00 for a curry, Registration 10.00am sat briefing 11.00 first start on both days 12.00
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Can we have a roll call please, this is one of the high profile events of the summer, theres not too many of them so I hope we can make a bumper turnout.
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We will be there.
XC have now moderated their forecast:
12 gusting 20 on Saturday, 14 gusting 18 on Sunday.
http://www.xcweather.co.uk/forecast/_SO31_5FB (http://www.xcweather.co.uk/forecast/_SO31_5FB)
What more could you ask for?
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We will be there in Ronin as Cool Beans is having a short holiday in the Isle of Wight
Ronin still for sale
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Atum is 100% in. I am only 90% at this stage depending on healing of wounds from an incident with a bicycle last weekend. I will find a replacement helm if I am not in a condition to sail by the weekend.
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Well be there. Most likely in Born Slippy.
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Forecast looks good to me...camping at club from Friday
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My replacement crew has too much college work and Sam is GCSE'd up to the eyeballs.
Any takers? Given the likely conditions I need someone with a bit of experience...PM me?
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We're still in for this, early start Saturday morning.
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Ade and Joe in Sweet Dreamzzz are dropping out. For me it is too much, I have not recovered from draycote yet! and i would be just too knackered, even by Sat afternoon!!! No energy in my tank.
Have a good un... looks like it will be fun.
cheers, from the wimp.
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I'm still recovering and I didn't spend as much time in the water as you Ade. Not as young as we used to be
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No crew available so I will be putting the brakes on the dayboat trailer, which will release me another weekend for a trip to Draycote/Carsington, Ade. I'll post on the Midlands Posse thread.
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Wind guru currently showing 20-28 kts for Saturday. Could be a perfect Cherub triathlon.
Sat bimble
Sat eve drink
Sunday sail
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Bimble?! What?! Born Slippy is straining at the leash.
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Thanks everyone for a fantastic weekend. Headlines are:
- It was fairly windy
- It was very windy at times
- Clive was very fast
- Trims remembered just how much fun a 97 rule boat can be
- For the third open in a row the Cherub class was the most numerate entry (Eight)
- Beer tastes best when drunk from the keg via 200ml urine sample plastics, with 6 people crammed into a car in a howling rainstrom
A proper report to follow when Hayley stops grinning and her arms recover from today's sends.
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In the meantime, photos courtesy of Eddie May
http://www.eddiemays.com/gallery.php?id=130512weston (http://www.eddiemays.com/gallery.php?id=130512weston)
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Congratulations to Clive and Alex, what a cracking weekends sailing. Thanks to all for a great time my feet have finally dried out now, but the grin is still there from the epic downhill blasts.
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New sails on Atum look good Ben
Sorry to have missed a good blast (not sure how much racing I would have done)
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The sails are good, need to sort out the jib a bit as it is set terribly in the upwind photos of Tim and I.
North kite has a mysterious tear in it from the weekend, so my skills as a seamstress that I developed while in cryogenic detention are going to come in handy.
Sam, Tim and I all had an awesome time. Conditions were, as has been previously said tricky, and it was those whose masts stayed skyward who did the best.
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Results are up.
http://www.weston.org.uk/site/results/cherub-int14-intcan13.htm (http://www.weston.org.uk/site/results/cherub-int14-intcan13.htm)
Still not sure they are completely correct. We certainly finished every race.
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Photos look great.
How did the Cherubs perform against the 14's? I notice that you started together from the photos.
Team Kirk had many options for sailing at the weekend. Sarah had a byte open at West Oxford SC, I could have done an ent open and Bristol, the cherub open at Weston and an event at Frampton. Sarah wanted to do the West oxford Byte event at it was one of the closer ones from their callender. I was on baby sitting duty. The gusty conditions made it enjoyable to watch and sarah led the first lap of the first two races. She often lost places when the big gusts came in and pitch poled in one of the biggest ones. Alex appeared to enjoy camping and playing in the sandpit. I don't think we would have survived in the Cherub in those conditions.
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Well done Sarah
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It was a bit of a surprise how we seemed to be keeping up with 14s at times.
In the last race the first 2 boats to the weather mark were Cherubs.
The 14s did not seem that much faster downwind either.
They do seem to keep going better when we stop.
There was 1 race where Roger Gilbert lapped us all.
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More images
https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=1433c0b6911ec4d7&page=browse&resid=1433C0B6911EC4D7!130&parid=1433C0B6911EC4D7!116&authkey=!AvYNhJKqQdYWDTs&Bpub=SDX.SkyDrive&Bsrc=Share&sc=Photos&type=5
(https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=1433c0b6911ec4d7&page=browse&resid=1433C0B6911EC4D7!130&parid=1433C0B6911EC4D7!116&authkey=!AvYNhJKqQdYWDTs&Bpub=SDX.SkyDrive&Bsrc=Share&sc=Photos&type=5)
These are posted by Tim Roden, he's now working for Wiz at Matrix Composites. He was on the safety rib. The shots really show the variety of conditions over the weekend (the cover shot of us re-rigging the kite on Saturday reminds me there was hail).
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That is interesting Clive. When we sailed against them at Weston 3 years ago at the grand slam there was 100 points between us in handicap. In F2-3 conditions we were very even upwind and down. As you say they stop less with a change in conditions. That will be 2 feet of WL and approx 50Kg of boat and sailors difference.
Our handicap does not reflect only our straight line speed but also the ability to maintain it through changing conditions and manoeuvres. I think the RYA PY for cherubs will continue to drop.
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That may be true for W/L courses in good Cherub conditions. However over a range of club courses and breeze strenghts I think the current handicap is OK. On our day we can win but a round the cans course or a lighter breeze then other less extreme boats stuff us on 920. Anyway we are doing our bit for PY feedback by doing some Wednesday evening races at QMSC
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Our last three results show the difficulty of handicapping a cherub
Race 1 - medium wind strength W/L - we win by 4 minutes on corrected time (mixed fleet of 35ish)
Race 2 - lightish wind P course - cracking start and first round windward mark, wind then eases to 'sub-optimal' result 8th out of 30ish
Race 3 - light wind triangle - poor start and very sub optimal winds throughout. 24th of 30ish. Only boats behind were complete numpties or fellow trapeze boats (musto and 700's)
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We have the same experience Andy, at Brightlingsea where we have to start in a shifty creek, return there for a turning lap marker and with strong tides we find we wither win by up to 10 minutes, or lose by up to 10 minutes usually depending on the wind and tide direction (long beat with the tide = good, long beat against the tide = bad). We race against the B14 National Champion and a few fair to good merlins, ditto fireballs, lasers etc along with some cats who are equally unpredictable.
We still sail off 920 which I think is on the generous side, I did offer to reduce it to 900 but was told that was the race committees decision, not mine, fair enough !
So I think its down to where you sail, winward leeward and we'll be hammered, round the cans maybe not so much, a good advert for individual clubs setting their own PY.
A wise man once told me - don't winge about your PY, just smile and sail to it - wise words indeed